Virgil Texas has declared war on Anarchism

Edit: Lol did I start a site wide struggle session?

Edit2: keep it going. Is this the most commented normal post yet?

  • fred [any]
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    Fuck, you're all a bunch of liberals. Grandpa is sounding like a neoliberal dipshit and thank god for someone putting him in his place and calling out his dumb ass toxic takes.

    Fucking thank you Virgil and Brie! Fuck Noam, dude.

      • fred [any]
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        And his dumb ass takes shouldn't be called out??? Why the fuck are some of you taking this so personally. He's saying dumb ass shit that is actively harmful. Fuck off liberal.

        • kilternkafuffle [any]
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          I'll forever respect Chomsky for the years of activism and writing. But the views he's expressing here are shit and should be called out. I don't know if he's gone senile or just fell behind the times, but he's not even speaking our language anymore.

          • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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            He (wrongly) thinks that voting for Biden would create better conditions to build a left wing movement, so he says to vote for Biden.

            I thought we all agreed that whether you vote for Biden doesn't really matter very much anyway, so I'm not gonna spend my brain cells getting pissed off at people who say to vote for Biden unless they're being really shitty about it.

            • SerLava [he/him]
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              Wait, Biden is obviously going to actively devastate our capabilities, but do you really know if Ivanka 2024's blatantly fraudulent election won't lead to us getting killed?

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                  Biden will do jack shit and make a 2024 republican likely, but if Trump wins now he's going to spend the next 4 years dismantling the vote even more, and will make it even more likely than that.

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                      But he still will need a Republican win to help threaten states to avoid state charges. The state prosecutors aren't invested in federal power structures in the same way as feds are, and they actually think it would be cool if they got a PRESIDENT

            • ap1 [any,undecided]
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              How many state sanctioned murders of white American leftists happened under Obama? Kenosha style terrorism and the Portland assassination will only get worse as we descend into fascism under Trump.

              Neoliberalism sucks balls but fascism is measurably worse

              • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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                We're talking about different conditions here, and I think you can look at Obama's ferguson response combined with Biden's race record to predict how he's going to treat the protests, especially considering that his opposition will be the Republican party, i.e. there will be no mainstream criticism of him for being too heavy handed.

                Honestly, though, I'd break with the consensus here to say that there is a meaningful difference between a President Biden and a President Trump, but I'm still voting Green because voting for Biden means perpetuating the system that gives us "choices" like this in the first place. We've reached a point where it's either the system goes or the system stays, and the latter wil have disastrous consequences.

                • ap1 [any,undecided]
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                  Being beaten up by cops is better than assassinated or being state sanctioned murdered by chuds

                  Source: been beaten up by cops, don't want to be murdered

          • rolly6cast [none/use name]
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            Chomsky was always kinda iffy even back then. Here's a fun writeup on it, but most interesting I find is his misread on the effectiveness of black radicalism during the Vietnam war. There's also his incessant general Lenin bashing, which is mostly irrelevant in the modern day, but more importantly his whitewashing of America as this great free place thanks to freedom of speech (a very liberal conception of it) or Western Europe as socialist.

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            He's been saying this stuff for so long that I don't think it's just dementia solidarity with Biden. I remember him saying this stuff when GWB was running.

          • fred [any]
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            don't make fun of my grampa, he's owld! whaaaaa.

            Yeah, you are. lmao. Fuck off liberal.

              • fred [any]
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                The more liberal bullshit you excuse, the more liberal you are actually!

                      • fred [any]
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                        how? wtf are you talking about? he's giving Noam a pass. Fuck giving him a pass. We are not in agreement.

                        somehow this site is even shittier than the sub.

                        • scramplunge [comrade/them]
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                          Hey hey hey, now partner. :hexbear-logo: :hexabear: :hexbear-shining: :og-hex-bear: :AC-CommBear:

                          You’re hurting my friends feelings.

        • ap1 [any,undecided]
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          anti-communism is where you support the Zapatistas, Corbyn, Rev Catalonia, Cuba

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        He still acts like being a leftist could get him arrested.

      • anonymous_ascendent [none/use name]
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        He gets a “pass” in that he won’t be punished by us, but he doesn’t get a “pass” in that we should listen to or give any credence to his bullshit

      • badbackjack [none/use name]
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        I'll pay anyone their weight in Reddit gold if they can find me clip of him speaking anything other than english.

        • ap1 [any,undecided]
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          Linguistics is where you speak other languages fluently :galaxy-brain:

          • badbackjack [none/use name]
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            Not exactly. It is the study of language itself. Though with a mastery of linguistics, the mastery of individual languages themselves is supposedley a simple thing.

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              the mastery of individual languages themselves is supposedley a simple thing.

              says who lol

              • badbackjack [none/use name]
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                Are you serious? Lemme guess. Two years of spanish in high school and don't remember a thing, right? Same here till I went back and got a degree in a foreign language. They make you take at least one linguistic class and its still the only class that sticks out in my head till this day. And of course Noam Chomsky's name pops up on literally the first page of the first chapter. The father of one of my classmates was a linguist who worked in tribal areas of Colombia. He could supposedly break down a tribal language in about a day and be fluent in less than a month. I say this because I just find it odd that I've never so much as heard Linguist Number One pronounce a foreign name with any real inflection - much less speak in a foreign language. Anyway.........

                • ap1 [any,undecided]
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                  there are different aspects to linguistics and having a concrete understanding in one aspect doesn't give you the magical abilities to memorize and pronounce languages well

                  • badbackjack [none/use name]
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                    But it does mean that in 50+ years of public life, international travel and acclaim that the world's premiere linguist should probably , yknow, have a recording of him saying "Hola" out there somewhere. He supposedly sealed the deal with his wife back in the day using his mastery of Hebrew. To be honest, you kinda sound like you don't know much about linguistics.