Virgil Texas has declared war on Anarchism

Edit: Lol did I start a site wide struggle session?

Edit2: keep it going. Is this the most commented normal post yet?

  • bamboo68 [none/use name,any]
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    4 years ago

    Eh, I don’t see this as a problem.

    nor do I, but I but I do see problems arising from it

    I don’t see total ideological homogeneity as a prerequisite for having a society that works.

    of course its not, most americans believe insane things and the country still "works"

    my point here isnt to shit on anarchism reallly but describe why anarchists "thought leaders" are gonna vary a lot more from every other anarchists because there's a sort of refusal to accept universalizing values because these aren't every truly "universal" its gonna be a constant issue when these contradictions emerge in any kind of "discourse" (forum/twitter bullshit) or around any "figure" that advocate for what anarchism means to the when given a platform

    i may sound harsh again, but as I understand anarchists do accept and understand that this embrace of pluralism means that deconstructing will be a lot easier than constructing, everyone can point out why capitalism and white supremacy and cishetpatriarchy are bad within anarchists circles often from direct and personal experience, but there's not an explcit program attached to direct these poltical beliefs, so they will go in different directions, there is always and always will be acts of community based on these shared experiences, but these will always seek to resolve contradictions through the path of least resistance, because resisting is actually awful no matter how much we glorify those who do

    • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      That's fair enough, I think another reason there's more disagreement among anarchists is that anarchism has something to say about basically every issue that exists so that's just more things you can disagree on.

      What alternative is there to pluralism? Maybe it's cynical but I think if you ever believe you've found eternal unchanging truth, it's more likely that you've really just blinded yourself to other ways of thinking and you're therefore setting yourself up to fail. Whereas, with pluralism, there will still be a general will that points in one particular direction, and everyone should be able to sign off on that even if the details become more contentious in implementation.

      edit: Could you give a specific example of these irreconcilable differences that would prevent us from forming an actual society?

      • bamboo68 [none/use name,any]
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        4 years ago

        What alternative is there to pluralism? Maybe it’s cynical but I think if you ever believe you’ve found eternal unchanging truth, it’s more likely that you’ve really just blinded yourself

        but I don't believe what I've found is eternal or unchanging, i think it is useful for the present conditions

        and i think the main philosophocal thrust of my ideology is its criticism of capitalism based on the material conditions imposed upon me and those i care about, understadning that these will always be unique and seperate, but understadning the power needed to redress them and negate capitalism is dependent on our ability to challenge and defeat the state and thus i find my ideology useful as unifying factor, which through its program tries to dismantle the state as it exists by creating out

        ill finish this later

        • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Sorry, all I meant by "eternal and unchanging" was that it was absolute, it can still depend on circumstances.

          • bamboo68 [none/use name,any]
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            4 years ago

            i agree, but my point is more that even though my ML take on what a communist should is in no way absolute i think its useful still as a unifying framework, complete with a practical response to the reality that the state will use violence to suppress us if we threaten the interests of capital