• witx@lemmy.sdf.org
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    26 days ago

    You seem to be letting your hatred for Musk confuse you about space exploration. NASA and other governmental agencies do very important work when it comes to space exploration

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        26 days ago

        My grandpa helped design and test the tech for ballistic missiles while working as a private contractor for a now defunct aerospace corporation under contract with NASA.

        If he was still alive I would say he gets the wall too.

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        26 days ago

        "DAE le Musk Derangement Syndrome?"

        bazinga

        Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy's brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let's just chalk all this up to "Musk Derangement Syndrome" jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            26 days ago

            Culture war is when a person points out the chauvinism inherent in cracker fantasies about colonizing the stars because there is nowhere left to colonize here without just admitting to themselves they just want to subjugate everyone and everything on earth and above.

            @frauddogg@hexbear.net is 100% correct in every single comment they have made in this thread.

            I can't really even add anything to this other than say they right fuck off.

            • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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              26 days ago

              "As below, so above" might as well be the settler-colonizer's ethos. "As I subjugate everything below me, I must reach for what's above." At what point is Polly satisfied?

              Never, apparently. Humanity will go extinct thanks to this malign tumor on our collective neck.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                26 days ago

                Also funny how libs mistake actual structural material analysis as "culture war tropes" because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad and anything that challenges it must be from the wrong side of said culture war. Which funnily enough is also culture war bullshit.

                "Surely I can't be racist I'm one of the good white people!"

                • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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                  26 days ago

                  because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad

                  Kinda outs their whole "war is a football game to you" allegation as pure projection, doesn't it? There is fundamentally zero difference between the 'cUlTuRe WaR', the electoral race, and the "professional" handegg games that will go on in two days for these settler liberals.

                  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                    26 days ago

                    Yeah they will smugly condescend to us with their "not a team sport" shit all the while demanding we vote for their particular team because harm reduction or whatever. Meanwhile every president and 99% of congress people of either party in my 40 years has done the same genocidal shit.

                    • FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml
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                      26 days ago

                      Are you doing a bit?

                      The allegation was that you're pulling everything back to culture wars, and you instantly started talking about "MSNBC vs Fox" and the USA's two-party system. In a thread about China's space program.

                      Not beating the allegations.

                      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                        26 days ago

                        Where the hell was China even brought up? This thread afaik is about settler brainworms regarding space colonization.

                        Like colonize is literally in the title of this post.

                        Allegations of what exactly. What are you alleging about me?

                        • FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml
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                          26 days ago

                          Allegations of what exactly. What are you alleging about me?

                          Being unable to formulate a thought, because you're addicted to drawing culture war lines.

                          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                            26 days ago

                            I am not even the person that you initially responded to. You're just a lib that is in way over your head in a topic you refuse to engage in critically because it makes you uncomfortable.

                          • REgon [they/them]
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                            26 days ago

                            stalin-gun-1logout
                            Acquire reading comprehension and work on why you instantly resort to smug defensiveness whenever you encounter something you disagree with

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              26 days ago

              Ironically enough in their fantasy about reaching mars with privatized space planes that is an extremely likely scenario lol

              • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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                26 days ago

                I keep thinking about what's been happening to Boeings lately and smiling. "C'mon, bazinga, go see the stars." [stick-poke meme]

                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  26 days ago

                  That submarine stunt was one of the funniest things that has ever happened.

                  Honestly if we wanted to do something neat that is almost exactly like settling an alien landscape we should invest in more deep sea research.

                  We don't even know shit about Giant Squid which are like the coolest most alien thing on earth.

            • REgon [they/them]
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              25 days ago

              Lmao at removing this but not all the smug shit coming the other way. mods=cops

              • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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                25 days ago

                Cries for civility in the face of the uncivil, demanding that subjects-of-empire kowtow and coddle the feelings of their colonizers, is the last gasp of the settler-fascist.

          • REgon [they/them]
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            26 days ago

            Buddy you responded with the most braindead lemmitor comment you could think of and then get surprised when that's the level you're engaged at. You people are dense as bricks, I'd get more introspection from the ocean in a storm.

        • FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml
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          26 days ago

          Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy’s brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let’s just chalk all this up to “Musk Derangement Syndrome” jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

          lol this sounds like you have smoke coming out your ears writing it

          • REgon [they/them]
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            26 days ago

            smuglord hehehe wow you sure seem mad about the fact that billionares are destroying the planet and people like me are clapping like trained seals. Wow such a heated reaction, that means that I have won this interaction because I do not care about things. One point for me please ron-soy

      • witx@lemmy.sdf.org
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        26 days ago

        Meh I dislike Musk as well but I don't let that cloud my judgement of his companies or science/engineering in general.

        • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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          26 days ago

          He isn't even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make. He's just the nepobaby failspawn of blood emerald mining company money in South Africa; and as far as I'm concerned, that makes anything that comes out of his companies while he helms them fruit of the poison tree.

          We do not support, uplift, or patronize colonizers, slavers, resource-extracting thieves, or any combination of the three in this house.

          • LilyRose1919@lemmygrad.ml
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            26 days ago

            He isn’t even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make.

            Then stop obsessing on him maybe? The thread was supposed to be about space stations and stuff.

            • m532 [she/her]
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              26 days ago

              melon-musk and those other bazingas are all the same

              Colonizer fantasies and zero knowledge about how anything works

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          26 days ago

          I don't let that cloud my judgement of his companies

          That says a lot about you, then. The guy's a fascist but you don't care because so-true muh bazingamobiles and space crap!

          • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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            26 days ago

            Polly's Tenet: "I can excuse anything from anyone if it means my treats arrive on time". My parrot is literally more disciplined than these settler shitstains.

        • REgon [they/them]
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          26 days ago

          His companies suck shit too. They fuck up the ozone, suck funding from the government, produce barely anything of value and fuck up nature reserves all the time. Just a tremendous waste of resources. Had the money that has been funneled into his many shitty scams gone towards anything actually useful (even if we're talking space exploration, which I do not think is worth the investment in this society) then we would have been so much further ahead already

          science/engineering in general.

          puzzled yeah I don't think anybody is against the general concept of "science/engineering" here buddy

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            21 days ago

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            • REgon [they/them]
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              25 days ago

              I think they're just not used to anyone not soyfacing over basic sci-fi or experiencing materialist critique. They're used to Neil DeGrasse Tyson talking about how you've got stars inside you. So when it's pointed out how NASA was staffed by nazis and its' main purpose is to be a MIC front, then they start talking about morals and culture war stuff. They're smart people who believe follow are interested in science (tm) so obviously whatever they think is rational (tm) and logical (tm) and critiques are therefore stemming from a place of emotions (bad).

              What I was trying to say is that most of them probably don't really think about this stuff, and then I got annoyed and expanded a bit.

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                • REgon [they/them]
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                  25 days ago

                  Oh yeah "u r emotional lol" smuglord is always asinine. Like the dweeb in here who responded with "wow you're pretty mad" to someone freaking out about the climate being destroyed to satisfy Elon Musks lust for impregnating women on other planets. Yeah, being angry is a rational response. Our society fetishises the idea of rationality, but since it isn't a rational society rationality gets reduced to nihilistic detached impassiveness. On top of that there's a hierarchy of what emotional reactions are acceptable and anger is at the very bottom of that list.
                  It's the polite Hitler meme.

                  On the days where I am especially conspiracy brained I think those who hold cultural hegemony understand how useful it is for them that we all masturbate to the idea of "turning the other cheek" and "taking the high road", and they purposefully smash it in everywhere they can. And I'm very much not just talking about Marvel slop here.

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