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  • cycle [none/use name]
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    The admins and moderators running the discord server are the same ones running this lemmy instance (with a few exceptions). Assuming you were interacting in good faith on discord, what makes you believe you won't encounter similar problems here with moderation?

    Multiple downvotes within seconds of commenting. Good faith discussion, for sure.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      Because as others have said, the rules were much more strict on discord than here. Also I believe to some extent I deserved my ban at the time. I managed to ping the mods by accident and post violent scenes/retoric twice, which is against the discord TOS but not against the rules on Lemmy. (Except pinging the mods for no reason, that's bad everywhere). Also I've had good and constructive interactions/discussions with the people that gave me warnings/banned me on the discord here in chapo chat, so it's going great so far for me.

      • cycle [none/use name]
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        Actually responding instead of instinctively downvoting, thanks.

        I don't agree that what you described justifies a permanent ban. Many other communities use a punishment tier system, with cooldowns, that permit a reasonable level of moderation action per user.

        The rules were strict on discord, sure, but they're relatively strict here as well (compared to the old subreddit). They've said they're planning to loosen the rules over time, but at the moment the same issues with users discussing in good faith being unnecessarily targeted is still relevant.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          Apparently you can appeal a discord ban if you want, but I'm not going to bother as I spent wayy to much time on that thing and became really unproductive (in a personal sense, not a job or work or anything like that)

          • cycle [none/use name]
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            I know that for me and many other people, there was no reason or appeal instructions provided at the time of the ban. I had to run around attempting to contact several mods/admins (many of which ignored DMs or had them disabled) just to understand why I was banned in the first place and how to file an appeal.

            The appeal process itself is also something that should be under reconsideration if democratization is a goal for this site. Sending an appeal form into the void with the hopes that one of the moderators that may have taken action against you would be able to impartially review the merit of your appeal is... not an ideal system.

        • AlfredNobel [comrade/them,any]
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          4 years ago

          Post of this is the lack of other options for mods. The devs are great, but are still building this place as we go. At the moment the only tool available is to ban. There is no mute feature which would be great.

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          The rules were strict on discord, sure, but they’re relatively strict here as well (compared to the old subreddit). They’ve said they’re planning to loosen the rules over time, but at the moment the same issues with users discussing in good faith being unnecessarily targeted is still relevant.

          This is also my biggest problem. People who’ve been unfairly banned, who haven’t been involved with the brigading stuff, have been seeing some pretty heavy handed action and language from mods that is only forcing polarization.

          • KiaKaha [he/him]
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            If you know anyone who wants unbanned and a clean slate, either get them to make a new account, or hit up the mods for an unban.

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      Downvotes aren't violence, simply a reflection of majority consensus. Theres no karma here, downvoting isn't an insult, if something is downvoted it just means 'more people disagree than agree with this' and that's a thing that's obviously going to happen sometimes.