genuinely curious what ya'll think, i apologize in advance for the struggle session this might start lmao

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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    "Second most popular party official" yet somehow lost his bid for General Secretary to some damn swarthy asiatic Georgian hun from the Caucuses.

    This flatly ignores the fact that during the 10 years that the many socialist revolutionaries spent in exile Trotters was a loyal member of the Mensheviks until he jumped ship to the Bolcheviks right before the revolution kicked off because he was an opportunistic power-hungry rat that knew which party stood at the vanguard and wanted for himself a slice of glory.

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      “Second most popular party official” yet somehow lost his bid for General Secretary to some damn swarthy asiatic Georgian hun from the Caucuses.

      He lost to Stalin because Stalin managed to get a bunch of senior party officials on his side, because a coalition between them seemed more favourable than sole rule by Trotsky. And Stalin wasn't just some asshole.

      This flatly ignores the fact that during the 10 years that the many socialist revolutionaries spent in exile Trotters was a loyal member of the Mensheviks until he jumped ship to the Bolcheviks right before the revolution kicked off because he was an opportunistic power-hungry rat that knew which party stood at the vanguard and wanted for himself a slice of glory.

      He split with Lenin in 1903, and left the Mensheviks in 1904 (To work with the Bolsheviks), and was put on trial by the government in 1905 and was exiled. Literally nothing you say has any connection to reality.

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        He lost to Stalin because Stalin managed to get a bunch of senior party officials on his side, because a coalition between them seemed more favourable than sole rule by Trotsky. And Stalin wasn’t just some asshole.

        So he did indeed flatly loose in democratic election because he was a pretentious asshole that rested on his laurels. He should have tea with Hillary sometime.

        This flatly ignores the fact that he split with Lenin in 1903 (and was denounced as a Judas, scoundrel, and a stealing swine by him), and left the Mensheviks in 1904 (To work with the Bolsheviks), (because they didn't go his way so he took the third way of getting splinters in his ass by straddling the fencepost between factions) and was put on trial by the government in 1905 and was exiled.

        Fixed :back-to-me-shining:

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          Did Trotsky personally piss in your cereal? Because this is getting seriously weird.

          The fact that you've been straight up called out for being wrong and making shit up hasn't even slowed you down.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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            Yes, he asked to use my netflix account and then filled up my watchlist with anime trash

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                No. I'll die of old age before I can finish that show.

                Also trottamus put SAO and Guilty Crown on my list and destroyed my recommendations.

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            it's best to ignore the stalinists

            at best they're teens who are into socialism as a rebellion against their parents, at worst they're actual fucking psyops meant to divide the left. sounds nuts until you realize just how fucking nuts the FBI and CIA are and how much they HATE leftists

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      some damn swarthy asiatic Georgian hun from the Caucuses

      What? Are we playing the "are Russians more anti-Semitic or more racist" game here or what