Funny thing is communists DONT year for violent revolution, they yearn for a more egalitarian society, but fucking capitalists just murder them for even wanting it.
Yep
People use the means which are left to them
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Also America was founded on violent revolution
...and genocide
Not to mention the other liberal poster child: France. Violent revolution, mass murder, dictatorship world war. That just went fucking peachy.
French Revolution was cool and good. The terror was justified.
Idk about cool and good. I don't think anyone should glorify violence, but it was necessary.
That's literally what they do, they push it to the peripheries where an underclass is barely paid to do it for them, this applies to animal farming as well as imperialism.
If you are reading history and conclude anglos have generally been anti violence, you've got the book upside down or something.
Any read of F-R that doesn't start with "good" is poisoned by 18th century english propaganda, CMV
The revolution was good, but I am firmly in the violence is a necessary evil camp. Bully me about it all you want.
A necessary, unavoidable pre-requisite. I don't know why you'd feel the need to hand-wring over it unless you have substantive criticism of the application of violence in the revolution.
yea lol
like we just want the revolution it's the bourgeoisie that doesn't let us have it without violence
It's almost like any attempts to change the status quo through "legitimate channels" get's met with right wing violence.
Including literally "JUST VOTE", even that most milquetoast and nonviolent of actions has resulted in genuine violence or threats of violence for decades
I'd like this to be the actual intention behind the original tweet, but I know it isn't.
Guess one has to be privileged enough not to experience violence and keep the opression alive instead of guiottening the 1%. Breadtubers be crazy.
Exactly, they claim they want revolution so it must be the violence they are against and that is because they have the privilege not to be subjected to the violence of the state or the threat of it on a constant basis.
Patiently waiting for the American bourgeoisie to peacefully eradicate themselves and yelling at anyone who goes near them.
Honestly even by time standards her videos are boring af (I don't watch youtube videos over 5 min so maybe that's just me)
If I stand by and watch you get sexually assaulted, all the while shrugging my shoulders and saying, "well, that's men for you", can I call myself anti-rape? What if I turn that into a career? Ellis, contrapoints, Dan Olson, they're all trash.
Yeah, I do. You know their Patreon numbers are somewhat public, right?
I mean, their expenses aren't. Also she lives in LA if i remember correctly.
She has 8,562 patrons and I can't see the total dollar amount. So probably not a millionaire.
I know, that doesn't mean that they have net worths of 1 million or more. Even the for big breadtubers, they have living and production expenses, and haven't been getting lots of patreon money for a long time. Massive Youtuber Mr Beast has a reported net worth of 18 million dollars and he have endorsement deals and stuff and uploads way more often than average breadtubers. do you think they're living like scrooge mcduck off of patreon backers? I don't even think contrapoints is a millionaire off of her patreon, definitely not Lindsay Ellis and there's no fucking chance Dan Olson is.
I mean contest probably is.
The other two, I don’t know their incomes off hand but I don’t think they’re quite near as high as Contra. They’re well off for sure, but idk if they’re “rich”
She makes more than a junior doctor does here, and that's before factoring in ad revenue. (And book/Merch sales) She's solidly pmc
but skull boy though i would say like a 99% with a shaun is forgiven for his crime of being born in terf island exception
And the Bay Area 415 guy, I've only seen a few of his videos though.
like the british tend to be better than americans on politics if we could just find out what the fuck is turning every one in the island into terfs we could just stop having to think about the british for a bit
Tony Blair was a mistake. Also british media is absolute trash.
Well shit, that's cool. I guess you never really see his face so I didn't notice.
Nobody wants violent revolution but no capitalist is going to just give up power peacefully so it must be taken by force. Fucking libs.
It's one thing to understand that revolution will require violence and another to be obsessed with the violence that will happen during a revolutionary period. Some comrades fit the latter description and I don't think that's a healthy place to be in.
We'd all love for those who control the means of production to yield them because we all voted or whatever.
Were also not idiots and know that will never happen
mechano-posadism where the aliens are robots and kill us all then do communism on the ashes
They don't currently have the ability to use kinetic impactors, they won't for at least another decade, If we've taken US military bases we'll have ASAT weapons, and if there's a revolution it will come with military revolts. so we too will have rocks to drop.
Uh..as far as I know the only armed Space Station ever was Saylut 3. They absolutely could do a self nuke, but that would be difficult given how the system is set up.
Again, MAD involves people. Some of those people will be revolutionaries and we will have control of those facilities. Worst case scenario we can Kessler LEO pretty easily and then nothing is getting through..
That's a fair statement but it's an overly charitable reading of what these people are suggesting.
yea, looks like pre-election anxiety is giving Lindsey a strong case of the libs
I hear a lotta talk about the violence of the revolution, but virtually nothing about the violence of the state.
Noooo please don't cut the king's head off, that's a violence!
Would love to see these people hop in a time machine to call russian peasants violent authoritarians
Lol they don't need a time machine for that, the western cultural sphere has at several occasions depicted the Romanovs as innocent and undeserving of their fate.
After the revolution all existing copies of the movie Anastasia will be destroyed
Feels like they are trying to cultivate a shadowy enemy for their fans.
Exactly, they're reifying a counterbalance to justify remaining in the status quo. This is entirely because of this position's moral superiority, of course, not because they'll use any justification for the defense of their currently excellent material conditions.
I don’t think either of these people openly IDed as “Breadtube”, they both just do media crit and had politics a bit left of center.
