• Not_irony [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It was super important that Biden won South Carolina, tho.

  • acealeam [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    in an election where land is more important than people, and when the cities are already gonna vote for you this seems important

    • Keeperofthe7keys [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Also noticing the deep Bernie blue in Miami-Dade where Biden seriously underperformed.

      • shitstorm [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Or Nevada, which could sink Biden's victory. God I hate this stupid country.

        • Keeperofthe7keys [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah how the fuck is Nevada even competitive for Republicans, Dems fucked up so hard it's actually frightening.

    • anthropicprincipal [any]
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      4 years ago

      My mom lives in Kentucky. Voted for Trump twice, and she might've voted for Sanders.

      At least she said nice things about him in the primary.

      • Justthetip___ [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I had to convince both of my parents to not vote due to them only wanting to vote for Bernie or Trump. They both thinks Kamala is a full on ghoul and refuse to vote for that ticket.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      where's that graphic of how McGrath raised most of her money from coastal blue states

      EDIT: found it https://forwardky.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/McGrathContributions.png

    • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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      4 years ago

      I think Bernie could have made ky competitive, no way he wins but within striking distance. It would have been a huge shake up

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Just because a corporate blue dog didn't win doesn't mean a left wing candidate would've. If anything I think the winning message regardless of party in these states is a populist one independent of "left" vs "right" culture politics at large, but that their populist cultural line is certainly not that of the contempory dem party.

      It's just that you need the social side populist message to be deeply centered around the culture of the state. Hood to the hollar was a fantastic slogan. You needed someone who'd physically go to the apalachian parts of the state and throw a fuck ton of moonshine parties in every small town for the candidate. Culture war doesn't have to be at the expense of marginalized people, but you do need to appeal to it.

  • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I know it's cope bullshit but I'm still convinced that there is some kind of mass election fraud in the United States.

    I just still cannot believe that so many Democrats willingly picked Joe Biden.

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Don't forget that they didn't.

      Biden hardly won any primaries. Lots of other candidates that were doing better than him all just "happened" to drop out... For no fucking reason on the same fucking day.

      They didn't even try to make it subtle that they were ratfucking Bernie. All but one of the moderate Dems "magically" drop out at the same time and the only other candidate that's left is Liz Warren because she's capable of stealing Lefty votes from Bernie.

      It's not even a particularly subtle grift. They robbed a bank by blowing a hole in the wall but nobody seemed to care!

      • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        For sure, but it shouldn't have worked.

        How he managed to sweep Super Tuesday despite visibly disintegrating during the debates is baffling to me.

        Or it would be, but my state just voted down Rent Control and giving Uber employees any rights.

        It honestly seems like most people in the United States do not want things to get better.

      • Magjee [any]
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        4 years ago

        Then suddenly on Super Tuesday the results were in super quick calling everything a Biden win, except California which they refused to show as a win for anyone

        They tossed the numbers on screen and said it was over and Bernie is hurting the party

        HES HURTING THE PARTY

        ~

        Oh man, it was a rat fuck

      • Mike_Penis [any]
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        4 years ago

        i remember someone here debunking the thing about exit polls and official numbers being different though

    • kijib [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      every Dem primary voter over the age of 50 has been glued to CNN/MSNBC since Trump won, they are the liberal version Fox News viewers who have lost their minds

      the MSM spent all the primaries telling ppl they were forbidden to vote Bernie and had to pick the "electable, unity" candidate, who became Joe Biden right after the endorsements came in

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    4 years ago

    Yeah but Sanders supporters didn't risk getting fired for missing work during the primaries to stand in line for 6 hours. Democracy has spoken.

  • cum_drinker69 [any]
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    4 years ago

    Lol they had a feature where you could turn off Bernie's donations to get a sense of where the other losers' money is coming from.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      Not great for a general election match up unless you do Bernie v Trump heads up.

      Also, throwing money at Kentucky was a very obviously stupid move.

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Would Booker have carried it if they didn't ratfuck it for VeteranMcGrathVeteran? I don't know how much of McConnel's overwhelming win was for him and how much was against the moderate democrat.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          No. But then Booker wouldn't have been rolling around in eight-digits worth of donor money to begin with. He ran a lean campaign and focused on community organization, rather than outside financial aid and media saturation.

          At 799k, McGrath actually underperformed 813k won by Jim Gray in 2016 and 847k won by Bruce Lunsford in 2008, while McConnell brought in a record-setting 1.2M

        • Magjee [any]
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          4 years ago

          McGrath offered nothing other than: I'm not Mitch

          ~

          Which is what the main biden campaign was as well

          People need things to vote for, not just against

          ~

          Bernie actually has policies that connect with people

  • cilantrofellow [any]
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    4 years ago

    Trust polls not donations/rallies/volunteers

    :agony-yehaw:

    • Keeperofthe7keys [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Even the polls had us, Remember Bernie leading in every state except SC and AL before they all dropped out and screamed into the TV that only Biden could do it? Remember this? or how about polling on policy (tweet linked for convenience because these issues don't get polled as a set for me to provide one link for.) And let's even put that to a real world example where Florida votes like this and this at the same time.

  • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It was a nice map but I had to remind myself that the country isn't full of wonks getting pumped about an election a year and a half out. 700k spread out across 140 million votes doesn't tell the whole story.

    • Keeperofthe7keys [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      But those people energized a year and a half out do matter for organizing a campaign and convincing people to vote for you. Looking at places in deep Bernie blue that Biden underperformed in.

      • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It makes me sad. I knocked doors for a couple days in the cold in a light bernie, boarderline biden area.

        We focused on the lower income apartments. Higher income areas practically laughed us out the door. The lower income areas were super receptive and awesome. Such a hopeful fucking time. god damnit.

        • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Same here. We had such an insane amount of people turn out to knock for Bernie, way way more than expected. So many latino moms near the low income housing yelling their support for Bernie, so many fucking yuppies walking by who thought Biden was more electable.

          I know people shit on demsoccery here, myself included, but we need to remember the massive base of volunteers that would have kept canvassing if Bernie was nominated.

  • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "Those mean tweets mean you don't get healthcare." - I am going to have Fuck Elizabeth Warren written on my headstone.

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The Democrats would absolutely conclude from this that they should have nominated Beto O'Rourke instead