also what exactly was that message? I’m sure there are a total of 10 people who could list any policy or message from Biden

    • Tripbin [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Everyone knows the most progressive president™ has to start out with a big ringing endorsement for fracking. God forbid he did something loony like talk about nuclear

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The republicans should run an incel so the libs can twist themselves in knots about violent misogynist rhetoric and harassment vs sexual assault.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    look you don't understand, his sober message was about fighting for the soul of America, or something. we got America's soul back, so now everything's fine.

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Already actively running from 'most progressive' huh? I thought he'd at least have spent some time in office before libs decided to drop the pretense

  • anaesidemus [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i remember one Biden policy proposal, something about shooting people in the legs

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Best bit is it's true. Biden won the presidency (just,) failed to win the senate and set the dems up for failure in 4 yrs because his platform of 'nothing will fundamentally change'

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    Trump gaining 8M new voters in 4 years? Must have been all that Sober Messaging his administration was known for.

    • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah my first thought seeing this headline. If covid hadn't happened would have no doubt been a trump landslide. But no I'm sure it was biden's moderate policies

  • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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    NYT hacks were never going to believe anything else, regardless of the evidence. It's about getting to working-class liberals, not media assholes.

    edit: of course, the media assholes are still relevant. I'm sure they get to some people before we do.

    • GreatBearShark [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      oh yeah, for sure, agreed.

      plus honestly, I would doubt the level of influence that the NYT has on actual working-class people who need to be brought into a true left coalition. It’s just funny to see the diehard liberals learn nothing from an embarrassing loss and narrow victory back to back

  • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They voooted NOT for Trump. People would have voted for a broom handle. Of course they will use this as a ringing endorsement of centrism.