Oh, well I mean people absolutely make fun of his clothes and accent, just like people make fun of Ben Shapiro's voice and height. Whether or not that's OK, the reason for it is not because of NJR's clothes/accent, nor is it because of Ben Shapiro's voice/height. Those are just low hanging fruit to make fun of someone people don't like for other reasons. That's what I meant.
Is your position here that people are wrong to dislike NJR, or is it that people shouldn't mock someone for superficial traits that aren't inherently bad, even if they think that person sucks? Or do you think that people here are literally only making fun of NJR because of his appearance/accent/whatever?
people absolutely make fun of his clothes and accent, just like people make fun of Ben Shapiro’s voice and height
My position is that we shouldn't shit on leftists the way we shit on chuds. We should be far more generous with people we agree with on 90% of issues, even if we disagree strongly with some of their takes. There's no fucking way we're going to build any sort of leftist movement in the United States if we're all eager to shit on each other over petty things at the drop of a hat.
That's not treating him like Ben Shapiro. The point was that when people here make fun of trivial bullshit like appearances here, the reason they do it is because they dislike the person's politics, and Shapiro is just a common example of that.
But yeah, I don't really disagree with you. NJR has some bad takes but the US is probably never going to have a viable leftist movement that is too sectarian to see him as an ally. People seem to think that because communist movements a century ago in another continent were powerful enough to not always ally reformist socialists and instead fight against them, that we should do the same now.
Leftists express much more contempt when making fun of Shapiro. Just because you ridicule 2 different people doesn't mean you are treating them the same.
It's often hard to see the difference. For instance, I haven't seen a Ben Shapiro dunk thread on here in maybe a month, while NJR gets bagged on every other day.
We need a much lower tolerance for leftist infighting if we're going to get anything done.
Is that true? Tbh I feel like I don't see a ton of either. A quick search of "Shapiro" and "Robinson" however appears to show that they are both brought up dunked on somewhat regularly.
Oh, well I mean people absolutely make fun of his clothes and accent, just like people make fun of Ben Shapiro's voice and height. Whether or not that's OK, the reason for it is not because of NJR's clothes/accent, nor is it because of Ben Shapiro's voice/height. Those are just low hanging fruit to make fun of someone people don't like for other reasons. That's what I meant.
It should set off alarm bells when you're treating a socialist like he's Ben Fucking Shapiro.
Nobody is doing that.
Is your position here that people are wrong to dislike NJR, or is it that people shouldn't mock someone for superficial traits that aren't inherently bad, even if they think that person sucks? Or do you think that people here are literally only making fun of NJR because of his appearance/accent/whatever?
You just said:
My position is that we shouldn't shit on leftists the way we shit on chuds. We should be far more generous with people we agree with on 90% of issues, even if we disagree strongly with some of their takes. There's no fucking way we're going to build any sort of leftist movement in the United States if we're all eager to shit on each other over petty things at the drop of a hat.
That's not treating him like Ben Shapiro. The point was that when people here make fun of trivial bullshit like appearances here, the reason they do it is because they dislike the person's politics, and Shapiro is just a common example of that.
But yeah, I don't really disagree with you. NJR has some bad takes but the US is probably never going to have a viable leftist movement that is too sectarian to see him as an ally. People seem to think that because communist movements a century ago in another continent were powerful enough to not always ally reformist socialists and instead fight against them, that we should do the same now.
Come on:
Leftists express much more contempt when making fun of Shapiro. Just because you ridicule 2 different people doesn't mean you are treating them the same.
It's often hard to see the difference. For instance, I haven't seen a Ben Shapiro dunk thread on here in maybe a month, while NJR gets bagged on every other day.
We need a much lower tolerance for leftist infighting if we're going to get anything done.
Is that true? Tbh I feel like I don't see a ton of either. A quick search of "Shapiro" and "Robinson" however appears to show that they are both brought up dunked on somewhat regularly.
A better indicator is searching my comments for "he's good folks".
Really? I'm not SUPER online, but I feel like I haven't seen a NJR dunk thread in like a month