https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1325917740822093825

  • regul [any]
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    You're acting as though his clothes and his accent aren't both affectations he has adopted later in life. It's not like he popped out of the womb wearing a porkpie hat. It's perfectly reasonable to bully a self-proclaimed socialist for adopting the mannerisms of an early 20th century British dandy, especially if he's in any way attempting to be a public face for any sort of ideological project.

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      perfectly reasonable to bully a self-proclaimed socialist for adopting the mannerisms of an early 20th century British dandy, especially if he’s in any way attempting to be a public face for any sort of ideological project.

      The absolute state of the left smdh.

      • regul [any]
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        Awaiting the next great leftist pundit who smears himself in shit for his weekly vlog.

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        I was a leftist but then I saw that Nathan J Robinson dresses funny so I had no choice but to abandon leftism.

        Demanding people conform to some social construct of "normalcy", real progressive shit. All about self-expression and identity except when it comes to clothes because reasons?

        I care much more about his dogshit takes on Marx than I ever will about whatever the fuck he chooses to wear.

    • russianattack [he/him]
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      he could dress and speak the exact same way and if he had a better worldview people wouldn't tease him about it. his shit takes opens up the shallow type insults because it can be funny. i kind of feel bad, like he's missing the point but whatever.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        oh, well if he's from sarasota he should definitely be dressed as a flamingo but like, one that really stanned guy harvey and wears a sperry on the one foot that touches the ground

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      You’re acting as though his clothes and his accent aren’t both affectations he has adopted later in life.

      Oh you know him?

      • regul [any]
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        I'm assuming his mom does: https://twitter.com/marlonettinger/status/1179963188818976776?lang=en

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          I had a professor who grew up in Southern California. He talked in a very distinctive accent, because his mom was British but he didn't grow up in London. All of his students would joke about what the hell his accent was. I worked with a woman from Houston who had a similar accent for similar reasons, and who got similar comments on her accent.

          Certainly this tweet is proof positive that his mom is calling him out for just one day waking up at 26 and deciding to pretend to be British. There's no possible way it could be some light family ribbing over the type of unusual accent tons of people have. The best way to build left unity is to assume the worst of our fellow leftists, even over petty shit, and dunk on them like middle schoolers. See you in Central Park, everyone, I'm sure we're almost there.

          • regul [any]
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            The best way to build left unity is to never say anything mean about another leftist's choices ever.

            This is why gamer conventions all smell like shit. A bunch of people who got bullied a bunch for being "different" swing in the complete opposite direction and decide that you can never call out anyone for any reason.

            You wanna have a party of foppish dandies go off, but don't act like including them isn't a bigger turn off for everyone else.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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              The best way to build left unity is to never say anything mean about another leftist’s choices ever.

              Did I say no criticism is allowed, ever?

              And I don't buy the "oh he's a bad look for the left" bit because (1) it never acknowledges that starting an explicitly socialist magazine is really really good for the left, and (2) people revel in Zizek being unkempt and post that quote about Marx living a bohemian lifestyle all the time. No one pretends to care about that stuff for people they like.

              • regul [any]
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                Zizek is unkempt in a way that normal people are unkempt.

                • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                  It doesn't matter. You never hear about any pundit's fashion choices unless it's some chud we're dunking on. He's not a politician, he hardly has any visual media presence.

                  He hates capitalism as much as you do, if not more. There are so few of us as it is, why shit on the guy over wearing a cravat?

                  • regul [any]
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                    Because no other pundit dresses like a plantation owner. There are no other targets.

                    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                      no other pundit dresses like a plantation owner

                      Yes, yes, subtle racial accusations are the best way to build left unity!

                      • regul [any]
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                        Yes, yes, bad faith characterizations of obvious jokes are the best way to build left unity.

                        Nobody said he was a fucking racist. Stop being a scold.

                        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                          bad faith characterizations

                          "Plantation owner" has exactly one connotation in American politics. But keep on complaining about bad faith while you claim a guy is making up an accent.

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                              I'm not saying that I think the left has an image of over being anti-fun and against personal expression that doesn't fit a narrow mold, but I think the left has an image of over being anti-fun and against personal expression that doesn't fit a narrow mold.

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                                Yeah I never thought I'd see the day where a leftist rails against someone for not dressing "normally" because it makes other people uncomfortable. Sounds like puritans talking about sex. So what if he chooses things? I'm not at all equating the oppression of marginalized groups with dressing or talking differently but this sounds like the people who say being gay is a lifestyle, and trans people are invalid because they "chose" their gender. If you feel the way you express yourself doesn't line up with your identity, change it! People like this keep people from doing so with their sanctimonious haranguing. As long as what people wear is in sincerity and isn't hateful or offensive or provocative, if you're bothered by how they dress, you're the problem.