In this thread we post our most :LIB: takes, and discuss whether that is the logical end point on a given topic or whether we need to lose that last bit of liberalism.
In this thread we post our most :LIB: takes, and discuss whether that is the logical end point on a given topic or whether we need to lose that last bit of liberalism.
I dunno, how is any physically-bounded area any different from a prison?
Because you can leave.
i just want a place to dump all the ancaps ok ?
They're all gonna go to Rapture once Peter Thiel finishes building it.
That's part of why I'm hoping for technological collapse before then.
Hi hoping for technological collapse before then, I'm dad!
If they were really ancaps they'd be there already.
I can leave Earth, is Earth a giant prison!!!
John Carpenter was in talks to create "Escape from Earth."
Compulsory education is not a prison...
It's also not usually a punishment.
If it is, it's a prison?
Yeah, I'd say so.
That's a ludicrous definition of prison and infantilizes the experiences of actual prisoners.
Prisons are not when "you are forced to be somewhere." Prisons are violent institutions of slavery and torture.
If your definition of prison includes "being required to be in English class" and slaves putting out Californian wild-fires, you may need to rethink it.
Ok, but those things aren't the essential features of prisons. There are prisons in the world without slavery and torture. If you lock someone in a cell for committing a crime, and force them to take a class, I don't see how that wouldn't qualify as a prison.
How would you define a prison?
Edit: And wait, I literally specified "as a punishment", which obviously excludes English class. Are you deliberately trying to misinterpret what I'm saying?
First to address your edit. What is a "punishment?" Who decides when something is a punishment?
Does the subject or the institution decide when they are being "punished?"
A student forced to take a class may see it as a punishment, even if the institution does not consider it a punishment.
A criminal forced in a re-education program may see it as a punishment, even if the institution does not consider it a punishment.
You consider the latter a prison, but you do not consider the former a prison.