In this thread we post our most :LIB: takes, and discuss whether that is the logical end point on a given topic or whether we need to lose that last bit of liberalism.
In this thread we post our most :LIB: takes, and discuss whether that is the logical end point on a given topic or whether we need to lose that last bit of liberalism.
The concept of prison must be purged from peoples minds. The best approach is to have both "radicals" going all the way with their language and also people like you who are more cuddling in their language.
Why? Some people -- at least temporarily -- need to be separated from society, or have their access to society limited. However nicely we dress that up, that's imprisonment. That's not a concept that needs to be eliminated.
because a prison is a reactionary backwards horrible thing. like the police it has to be abolished. this is not about finding an euphemism to replace the word, the point is that the whole modern conception of the prison is rotten to the core, it has to be dismantled and replaced with something different. if you want to call this "something different" a "prison" that's ok but it's only confusing cause the whole point is that the new thing is not a prison. reeducation camps are not prisons, separating someone dangerous from the rest of society is not what defines a prison. what defines prisons is their class control objective, inhumane treatment of prisoners, punitive objective, unjust sentencing, domination of the inmates by chuds, etc.
This is not going to get ordinary people on board, and we need ordinary people if we want to get anything done.
Tell an ordinary person that a reeducation camp isn't a prison and they'll say: "Can you leave? Is that where you put criminals? Yeah, that's a prison."
Well as i said, I think "ordinary" people need to hear both things.
I see the appeal of that communication strategy, but it has the potential to confuse the issue, too.