lol.
This Will Be The End Of The Sequel Trilogy, Says Increasingly Nervous Man Child For Seventh Time This Year
I mean, I liked the first 2 lol. But RoS was a terrible ending.
The best thing about TLJ was chuds crying over Laura Dern's hair.
Yeah dude, in an universe where a fucking slug mafia leader executes his enemies by throwing them in a giant Venus flytrap in the middle of a desert planet with two suns, purple hair is unrealistic.
Maybe try consulting wookiepedia before opening your yap.
Help. I tried but this is all I can find
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jizz
I don't know, i've read somewhere ten years ago that it was a plant and i didn't look further.
I think they were going for it a little bit lol, the thing is I don't care and it didn't make it a better or worse movie to me.
definitely, although the idea of JJ Abrams getting dommed so hard by Rian Johnson that he tried to shove two movies into two hours of runtime is hilarious in hindsight
the beginning of the movie being exclusively in fortnite was just icing on the cake
JJ Abrams is a terrible movie maker. His "mystery box" approach where nothing is ever thought through means there is never a satisfying conclusion.
“mystery box” approach where nothing is every thought through
he's a true believer of hollywood production praxis...but that only exists because capitalism considers their workers to be interchangeable
It's one of the few times I'd advocate for that weird splitting of one movie into two that happens from time to time nowadays
It was a bit of fun and as someone with abusive parents who changed their last name as part of cutting ties the ending was extremely meaningful to me. I'd recommend it. It's not a great film. But you might be able to get some meaning out if it like I did.
Listened to a couple of podcast ragging on it and watched it with the sound off on a plane. Don't watch it. It's not good
I didn't like TLJ, but it had some really interesting ideas, enough that I wish Rian had been given the whole trilogy.
I just don't think deconstruction of a series' central themes works 8/9ths of the way through that series. There's no time for the reconstruction and synthesis.
Finn got fucking shafted. Most interesting character setup ever. TLJ should have been 85 percent Rey talking with luke and 15% Finn having PTSD.
Yeah it could have been great, Finn and Rose could have bonded over shared trauma during TLJ rather than some ham-fisted "war is actually bad" plot.
A former child-soldier brainwashed into being a storm trooper, and a civilian mechanic who lost her family to the war could have been an interesting dynamic.
I just don’t think deconstruction of a series’ central themes works 8/9ths of the way through that series
I also don't think it's a good thing in Star Wars. It's a universe where there's a literal "good guys vs bad guys" energy running throughout the entire universe. It would be like suddenly deconstructing the orcs and goblins motivations halfway through LOTR: Return of the King
??? There is literally no way that will happen.
This seems like some shit Geeks & Gamers and The Quartering would report lol, come on.
They're even literally tying some stuff from The Mandalorian to the sequel trilogy as we speak, this is nonsense.
This seems like some shit Geeks & Gamers and The Quartering would report lol, come on.
not unless they can somehow make it about Brie Larson!
Remember that crappy Wrinkle in time movie from a few years back that was kind of a lame kids movie? She said that the white nerds freaking the fuck out about it like it was the second coming of The Room were being ridiculous about a movie that wasn't really made for them, (a thing that I wish more people would realize. Like I fucking love Evil Dead, but I aint gonna show it to a squeamish dude who hates blood, the movies weren't made for him) and for some reason that set off the part of youtube that thrives off hate clicks.
:matt: Way I see it, I hope the loss of Trump at the very least calms the stupid fucking culture war down. I'm sick of people judging movies based entirely around weather it "owns the libs" or "pisses off the chuds" and it has lead to a measurable decline in quality of film criticism/discussion:matt:
I really liked the book so I was annoyed that it strayed a lot tbh
What are they trying from the Mandalorian to the sequels? I'm too casual a fan to notice lol.
That episode where they find the lab with failed experiments in big vats and find out the Empire is trying to extract Midiclorians and use them in experiments -- that stuff is likely hinting at how Palpatine was revived or how Snoke was created.
Also, there are various hints about The First Order (which the Empire rebrands itself as in the sequels). Like, when that dude who planted a tracker in Mando ships calls in, that Empire officer tells him "you'll be well rewarded in the new era. Or that chick in the last episode that used to create warships for the Empire, Mando says "seems like she's still in business" and she is, she's very likely building ships for the new Empire.
This shit again? The rumor is bullshit, Disney wouldn't make in non-canon to appease a minority of whiney fanboys when they're raking in Millions from everyone else.
Lol maybe they should have planned the films' plots ahead of time instead of each movie rejecting the previous one
The next phase for Star Wars that Disney's planning out is something called The High Republic. If you're not sure what that is, it's basically just The Old Republic but without Disney owing anyone from LucasArts any royalties.
I don't think they'll make the sequel trilogy non-canon, they're just going to try their hardest to ignore it.
So they'll ruin the Old Republic, the one good thing they/Lucas had?
HeDisneyCan'tKeepGettingAwayWithIt.gifStar Wars: The High Republic staring Seth Rogen, James Franco, Jonah Hill, and Tommy Chong
I hope chong brings some space weed to smoke on the corellian cruisers
uh pretty sure Disney doesn't owe LucasArts royalties for any of this, they bought Lucasfilm outright
The ST should have been the Reboot Trilogy rather than sequels. New stories, new settings, new characters. Set it in the same universe sometime either in the far future or in the far past. Tell a new story. Steer clear of the OT/PT tropes and use new ones. Or subvert the tropes from time to time.
The argument of mass appeal doesn't apply to Star Wars. Everyone would have seen TFA anyways. There's enough good will there to take a risk and still be financially successful. The idea that we have to stick to the exact same script for 9 movies proves how bad capitalism is at creative endeavors even playing by their own rules. We could have gotten at least two interesting and good SW movies before Disney got cold feet and pulled what they did with ROS.
My personal hopes for what a proper follow up could have been is as follows. Okay so you have The Old Republic fall and out of it came the fascist Galactic Empire. Then you have the rebels defeat the Empire and attempt to form a new Republic. Now in movie 1, you show new characters realizing that TNR is going to fall back into fascism. Because that shit happens IRL. So they must not only fight the budding New Empire, but also fight TNR. How do you deal with that? What groups emerge? What conflicts would there be? Well look to real life just like they did for the blatant Nazi allegory of the Empire. You get tepid reformists, you get revolutionaries, you get divides drawn along ethnic and class lines. I'm not saying TFA should have been Trump commentary but goddamn what a timely piece of culture it would have been to go "look, republics fail so the rebels have to make a new system." This also plays into putting the nostalgia bait to rest and guiding the audience to move the fuck on after almost 45 years. Also, expand the universe. Star Wars takes place in a galaxy far far away. Galaxies are fucking huge. I'm sure there's more than one royal family besides the Skywalkers. I'm sure there's other religions than Jedi. I'm sure there's more to the force than lightsabers, ghosts, and telekinesis. Do other shit.
The stupid thing is that they had so much stuff that they could have adapted from the dozens and dozens of expanded universe books but instead they just wasted it on JJ fucking Abrams.
They won't do that, there's no way itd be profitable. Theyll expand on the shitty ideas of the sequel trilogy until retroactively people think theyre good the way the prequels went.
I suppose we'll see, but I dunno man. I feel like the sequels don't have nearly the amount of meme potential that the prequels did.
they make a new
hopesequel trilogy, obviously.[now there are two of them .jpeg]
really looking forward to the stars wars xii: jedi strike, the phantom workforce
The thing that blows my mind is that all the dorectors had to so is paint by numbers. You make a safe 8/10 and everyone would be in love.
They had to go out of the way to get people to get weird and fuck it up.
Its a simple forumula. Pick a samurai movie, add lazers, done.
Look at the mandalorian. That is literally a unknown stranger taking a baby through the desert with lazers. Perfect formula, everyone is happy.
They fucked up by making Jar Jars bit basically black face, but I still want to believe jar jar was the big baddy the whole time. But because people hated him so much (understandably) they rewrote in general grevious and chickened out on the reveal. Jar jar was supposed to be like Dark Yoda
want to believe jar jar was the big baddy the whole time
big as in big dumbass liberalism giving power to fascism
That's the Jedi and arguably the point of the prequels. The jedi are not good
was this the one where their ship is besieged by the big nazi ship that shoots lasers that arc like cannonballs shot from cannons on a pirate ship and they somehow leave at light speed to recruit Benicio Del Toro from a casino planet?
No that’s the second one, which I actually think is the worst of all 3 of the new ones. The casino scene was stupid as fuck, the cannonballs were stupid as fuck, and the “girl power beats the empire” was goddamn awful. Don’t forget that they literally kill Leia (cause she died in real life) and then she flys herself from exposure in space to the medical tent and lives, and lives long enough to be included in movie 3.
I think it was the best because it was the least stupid (3 being the most) as well as the least boring (1 being very boring)
I predict star wars stories bramch out like the fucking Zelda timelines.
Can't wait until we're using the force to time travel and this really gets dumb as shit.
uh yeah they just opened up a new billion dollar ride in Disneyworld entirely based on the sequel trilogy, shut up with this cringe r/movies shit lol
Will doing this vs. not doing this impact in any way the amount of LEGOs or light saber toys they’ll be able to sell? No. So I really don’t think they give a shit.
I fucking love all the sequels lol. Its a great space laser wizard series and I liked the big pew pew ships.
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I like rey skywalker, I think force healing is okay, TLJ is one of the best star wars movies ever, Rise of the skywalker had some flaws but was overall good. Sure its ridiculous, sure some parts are dumb, hyperspace jumping was dumb, the "final order" was kind of a cringe name, but at the end of the day if I was a kid going to the theater to watch the new star wars I would have had a fucking blast, because that's what star wars is about.
also this is bullshit, its the same shit thats being peddled by the quartering and mike zeroh. The "rumor" doesn't exist, its not based in reality, and all it serves is to keep the fandom menace busy so they don't get bored now that the sequel trilogy is over and stop feeding the shitty sw youtubers their ad revenue. Stop regurgitating this garbage. If you think the disney is going to decannonize the sequel trilogy because some fuckin nerds decided to get a stick up their ass about rey being a skywalker or two of the strongest in the force people in the galaxy who have a really rare and strong connection through the force, being able to share their life force with eachother, or palpatine coming back, then you need to realize that a multi billion dollar company doesn't give a shit about what a couple people who make a living hating star wars think.
https://insidethemagic.net/2020/07/reset-star-wars-trilogy-ne1/
It's just a rumor, but I believe it personally.
The sequel trilogy is basically a dead end imo.
Bro in what world do you believe this? Are we in a The Quartering fan chat?
They might distance themselves from it in future projects, but there is literally ZERO chance that they take it out of the canon (if they did so they would have to also remove a ton of books, comics, etc from the canon as well).
What, they're gonna go "oh yeah, some people didn't like the sequels so we're gonna throw all this shit from the past 5 years in the trash and pretend it didn't happen." Like, what does that accomplish? Do you think they'll do a sequel trilogy again or something?
The prequels were fucking trash, but I still don't think they should be made "non-canon." Yeah, bro, it's unfortunate it sucked, just move on with your life.
The sequel trilogy is basically a dead end imo.
Dude, it's fucking star wars. They aint gonna make a whole trilogy that aint popular (but is still more popular than the prequels were till autistic zoomers got nostalgic for em kek) non-canon when they can just make a new trilogy set like 400 years after/before the new one and start fresh
Just give the entire franchise to the teams behind Rogue 1 and Mandalorian how fucking hard can this be?
They literally understand Star Wars and how to create real star wars stories better than any of the other incompetents that they've given it to. Just give them the main line of movies and the kind of budget they could only dream of having, they'll do it right.
Filoni and pals are great, They have spent the last 5 years carefully shoving every last bit of EU lore they can back in. They've already stealth re-canonised TOR.
the way filoni fleshed out the prequels' themes through an animated cartoon network show is absolutely astonishing to me, imo the man deserves the reigns to the whole thing
nah give it to Rian Johnson. R1 and the mandolorian are okay as side stories but they're too bloody self worshipping
Fair criticism, they DO self-worship Star Wars because they're obviously massive nerds and fans, to the point that it's actually to the detriment of the work a bit. I like how down to earth it all is though, they write a good story and they focus on the individual characters surrounded by a very believable environment and society. Nothing feels fundamentally detached. All they need to do is bring down the worship of star wars that lies within their work and it would hit something really special.
As far as Star Wars goes I still think they've done the best work with the franchise since the original trilogy though.
As far as Star Wars goes I still think they’ve done the best work with the franchise since the original trilogy though.
See that's a hot take but honestly, I agree. A lot of the dudes working at DIsney seem to get that SW is medieval fantasy in space with samurai/western shit for flavor. It's really anachronistic, pulpy, and weird (and deliberately so). Meanwhile back in the 90's and 2000's every guy working in the old EU seemed to be in a race to one up each other in a "how to make something unique more generic" contest.
That's why Mandalorian works so well. It is just no holds barred a single cowboy in space.
But like you said, lots of franchise worship. Ditch that and get down to just being gritty and real. No need for it. A big problem all new content has right now is that it's all made as a tribute and homage to Star Wars instead of just being Star Wars. If the franchise continues onwards I would hope to see that people figure this out and move on creatively from it... Assuming actually-creative people remain in positions of value of course. If corporate drones end up churning out any old shite they'll sit around a meeting table and repeatedly make a ragtag bunch of heroes with [insert hero archetype from first trilogy here]. Here's Han, here's Chewy, here's the Princess, etc etc.
The most relateable character that has been written since the first series is K-2SO. Although L3-37 the robot from Solo is a close second because she wanted a fucking revolution, they fucked her up by turning her into a fucking spaceship computer and enslaving her for eternity though. If I were the Falcon's computer after expressing her revolutionary energy I'd have killed the people responsible.
Why? TLJ was only good in the context of the two other shit films. It was still a bad film and even worse Star Wars.
Was the only vaguely creative movie that has come out of the property since 1980. I'd rather something weird get made that is flawed than the robot stuff that usually gets pushed out
Maybe but it was still just bad Star Wars compared to the Mandalorian and Rogue One. Bland boring aliens, stuff like the hyper-jump kamikaze, the shitty "I fuk ur mum" stuff right at the beginning. Being creative doesn't mean it was good, if I bend over and spray shit over my wall it's technically creative, but it still stinks.
Bland boring aliens
eh, I liked 1920s world
, stuff like the hyper-jump kamikaze
That was based what are you on about
It made the entire point of Star Wars space battles pointless. They've always been WW2 style dogfights but why not just make a bunch of ships and hyperjump them into other ships instead?
i dunno it's fucking star wars who cares? Why doesn't Morgana le fey just send legions of Green Knights after King Arthur and take England herself? Why did Odysseus piss off multiple Gods on his way home despite knowing that they'd be pissed? It's myth. Myth doesn't really operate on modern story structure
Why did Odysseus piss off multiple Gods on his way home despite knowing that they’d be pissed?
he wants the opportunity to dab on them
The prequels weren't popular, but sold well. The sequel trilogy has lead to a collapse in toy sales, they really thought those Porgs were gonna be big. The fall was so huge that they didn't even bother to scale production for Baby Yoda and were blindsided by the Mandalorian's popularity.
hey man im just going by what redditors like to self identify with
