Try paying attention to how a president actually governs and how they've affected material conditions. If you look at it that way, Trump is at worst the level of Obama (who started 5 new wars), and several orders of magnitude less bad than W or Bill Clinton. Remember, Lincoln project wants to invade Iran/Vz/Russia. Fuck those war criminals

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    I disagree, it's not going to get back on track.

    Trump's incompetence is in surrounding himself with all these losers, but he mostly isn't involved. US power has been waning for some time. And Biden's crew is not any more competent.

    We're seeing the rot of empire. I don't see how it recovers from this.

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      Biden's people will be the same ones who turned libya into a slavers dream and paid Al-Qaeda to conquered Syria and their adventurism will be boosted by the liberal euphoria that will wash over this country in the months after Trumps defeat, Renovatio imperii Romanorum is the name of the game and it will be paid for using the political capital gained from Bernie's and Trump's back to back defeats. The neolibs won themselves a second chance

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        They're all the same people! The Deep State is real.

        Trump vetoed the bill that would've ended the Yemeni genocide. No one else would even have attempted to start a war with Iran.

        Arguing about which group of fucking murderers is less bad is completely pointless. All those dead Yemeni kids don't really care.

        As for neoliberals getting a second chance, like a 1/3 of the nation is about to be thrown out on the street. No one is giving them a second chance. They're not even going to retake the Senate and they'll be lucky to hold onto the house.

        I don't know what happens next, but things aren't going back to "normal."

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          The deep state is filled with competing factions, knowing which ones are in power is absolutely crucial in comprehending anything that happens in the context of foreign policy, if nothing more than because some of these factions are more competent than others

          I don’t know what happens next, but things aren’t going back to “normal.”

          Everything's already back to normal

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            Everything’s already back to normal

            Bruh, what? Have you not been looking at the figures? Tens of millions unemployed? At least 35% of small businesses completely wiped out?

            I don't know what happens next, but if you're thinking there's going to be some kind of 2008 style complacency, then I don't think you're reading how badly things are falling apart. This is as bad as the Depression, or worse.

            And we're at the beginning of this, not the end. I don't know what happens next, but it sure as shit is not going to be "normal." It already isn't.

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              The new normal has been established, but now we wear masks, its 2009 2.0 2x, a year from now no one will remember covid even if it's still taking out hundreds a day and biden will be giving a speech about how the "Free Venezuelan Army" will bring democracy back to Venezuela

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                Six months ago, I would've agreed with you. Things are looking pretty fucking wacky now though. I don't think that's gonna be true at all.

                I'll mark my calendar. We'll see what happens.