I had always assumed that if a man had gotten a woman pregnant, then if that pregnancy is carried to term, both partners should be financially responsible for the child regardless whether the man had wanted to have the child or not. The mindset being "they got them pregnant, so you have to face the consequences'".

I was talking with some people online, and they asserted that if the man did not want to have the child, then they should be able to apply to be resolved of any financial responsibility towards caring for it. I was at first against this proposal, but I feel like I now understand it better. Our current legislation was created at a time where abortion was tantamount to murder, and since it was illegal, an obligation of financial responsibility was the only way to ensure that women weren't stranded with children they couldn't afford to raise. But now that we live in a world where abortion is legal (for now), and where abortion procedures are safer than carrying the child to term, there doesn't seem to be a good argument for men still needing to be financially responsible for unwanted children. Men probably would still need to assist in paying for the procedure, but outside of that, I think they had a point. Please explain to me if there is anything I'm failing to consider here.

I also want to apologize for the binary language I used in writing this. I tried at first to write this in a more inclusive way, but I struggled wrapping my head around it. If anyone can educate me in how to write in a way that doesn't disclude non-binary comrades, I would appreciate it.

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    To all the cishet women realizing that sex sometimes makes babies: take a celibacy pledge, don't have sex until marriage, swear off sex with fertile people forever, 69, go to church and come to Jesus. I recommend listening to Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson as well. Remember, because of lobsters and hierarchies... you should be trad.

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        Hmm seems like some projection going on here... hope you are ok. Might need to either hog out or log out.

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      Forgot this one: "Be prepared to get an abortion or give birth"

      don’t have sex until marriage

      love the implication that married women don't have abortions 🤡

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        It was obviously a parody of your comment.

        I think you might need hog out or log out.

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          I'm okay with telling women they have the choice to abstain from sexual activity that can get them pregnant even when they're using birth control if they don't like the possibility of needing an abortion or to give birth. This is what adults do and it applies to STIs as well.

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            This whole "this is what adults do" rhetoric is straight out of the right-wing playbook, as I've said many times before.

            The solution is simple, state child support and no more shaming making this an individual problem. I thought we lived in a society? Not some kind of thatcherite hell-hole.

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              This whole “this is what adults do” rhetoric is straight out of the right-wing playbook, as I’ve said many times before.

              No, they say you have to get married to fuck. I say you have to do sexual activities that fit your threat level. If the 1% failure rate of birth control is too much for you, go give head and get fucked in the ass or choose partners who have no way of getting pregnant (older cis women, cis women with no wombs, trans women... cis men?)

              The solution is simple, state child support and no more shaming making this an individual problem. I thought we lived in a society? Not some kind of thatcherite hell-hole.

              You're gonna have to wait will we reach full space gay communism to fuck babes raw, sorry

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                  We're gonna have to wait till fully space gay communism to have college education and healthcare absolutely for free, not through taxes. Right now I'm okay with telling men to get pegged, get sterilized or be celibate if the don't want to face the tiniest possibility of paying for child support (which... could also not happen if the child is adopted).

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                    We’re gonna have to wait till fully space gay communism to have college education and healthcare absolutely for free, not through taxes. Right now I’m okay with telling men to get pegged, get sterilized or be celibate if the don’t want to face the tiniest possibility of paying for child support

                    And right now I'm ok with telling men to not pay for something they don't want. If you don't want the child, you shouldn't be forced to pay.