Title states all, Vietnam is a country that fought for it's independence, fought off multiple invaders including 2 industrialized western superpower nations, and now is one of the fastest growing economies in East Asia and is generally speaking seen as a positive nation on the global stage, without all of the baggage that China or North Korea carry. Obviously this is an abridged understanding of Vietnam but on paper it looks good, unless there's some brave posters willing to tell me otherwise?
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Because the anti-dengism circle jerk is in cognitive dissonance to the same people who will stan Vietnam with its similar system.
Edit: i have issues with Dengism too, but this seems to be a common logical inconsistancy amongsts many leftists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Vietnamese_billionaires
You could do the exact same thing for China, I don't see your point here
That's exactly my point. People go "China has billionaires, China bad."
If thats the case then Vietnam has billionaires. Vietnam also bad.
Both countries run on basically the same system, so its pretty wild to say that one is a state capitalist and the other is socialist.
I can at least understand the people who say both are bad.
How about both are good? :thinkin-lenin:
Thats my general take on their economies, yeah. The only major criticism I have of Vietnam is their willingness to be a lackey of the US military.
They use the US for their own national interests, but it’s not like they host US bases or anything.
It’s about on par with China’s support of Israel.
The only issue is the closeness to the USA makes it less likely they’ll pull out of their downward spiral of privatisation.
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it's not about economic ideals, it's about material relations to production. They're smaller and less hegemonic than China
I def get your 2nd point, Vietnam isnt really big/strong enough to be imperialist (etc.) even if it wanted to, while the same is not true for PRC. Could you expand on what your 1st sentance is saying tho, are you talking about value chain positions or something like that?
I mean the opposite is also true