idc if "Nintendo is doing bad shit with copyright" is a petty reason to want revolution I want it now.

also i recently learned how like half of the Japanese hololive vtuber's stream archives were wiped out (mostly privated and people swear they'll come back but its been 4 months) because of capcom being shitty with copyright too and the hololive company going batshit insane in overcompensating. I dont even watch vtubers (though im starting to get interested in them) but I do get super fucking anxious about deleted content being gone forever so the faster we can get to revolution and end that shit the better thanks love draggo.

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I think abolishing copyright and intellectual property in general is a fine enough reason unto itself to make revolution.

    • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      My only hesitation is that previous socialist revolutions haven't, to my knowledge, abolished copyright and IP and I'm also concerned that its a sort of first world concern

      • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I may have been being a bit tongue-in-cheek. As far as accomplishments of a revolution go, copyright and IP will probably be toward the rear end of things to accomplish, because it is as you say, a first world concern. I still hate both things with a passion, though.

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          4 years ago

          it seems to me that IP laws and copyright stand as a big impediment to efficient progress. Ideally in a socialist country "trade secrets" would be open knowledge so that anyone could work to improve it, similarly to free and open source software paradigms.

          I think it's fine for people to receive recognition for/own their art and music and stuff like that but I'd like to see a major expansion in the rights of people making transformative/derivative works where someone can't just torpedo your shit just cuz you used 10 seconds of their song or whatever.

      • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I mean it's not really a first world concern. In fact I would argue the opposite, and the most recent examples of this is several third world countries calling for the covid vaccine patents to be open. There was a recent democracy now interview about this.

  • anthm17 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They don't seem to see value in streamers and just having the product out there.

    It's a bizarre bit of narrow mindedness on Nintendo's part.

    They always like to do things their way I guess.

    • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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      4 years ago

      Not that every other company is great on this (remember when Atlus threatened to sue people who streamed Persona 5 past a certain in-game date?), but it really feels like Nintendo is consistently 15 years behind everyone else on anything related to the internet

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Its always sad to see "community backlash" that doesnt do anything. Like I'm hearing "we should still support the developers who are doing such a great job to make the games" assumedly unaware that the money mostly goes to investors

  • deadtoddler420 [any]
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    4 years ago

    Nintendos been dumb as shit this past week but at least they havent just been doing a bunch of acquisitions which is way, way worse imo.

    • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Like, a lot of shit. The specific thing that triggered this post was https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/11/twitch_streamers_banned_for_playing_hyrule_warriors_age_of_calamity

      But they've been doing all sorts of shit lately. Probably the most egregious was a Cease and Desist to the people making joycons in Etika's memory where all the proceeds were going to charity lmao. They've been hammering down on music uploads on Youtube. Something happened with a Melee tournament where they were using a mod to have good netcode, I'm not sure if it was a cease and desist or they just pulled support. Just a complete rampage lately.

      • anthm17 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Apparently they also had a tournament taken down because they didn't like the name.

        edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/k7khvf/nintendo_cancels_stream_of_their_splatoon_na_open/

        • anthm17 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          No, this is a frequent and ongoing thing with Nintendo.

          They are just shitheads about IP.

        • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah this shit is definitely sus though its hard to imagine a game with the same gameplay and engine as the original Hyrule Warriors being bad.

            • Rojo27 [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Wouldn't be shocked if that's what eventually happened. At least in so far as paying for watching streams. Just look at what's happened to TV internet streaming. Initially it was supposed to be a cheaper and viable alternative to cable. Now everyone and their mother is coming out with their own streaming services and by the time you subscribe to all the services you're interested in you're paying as much as you'd pay for cable.

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            4 years ago

            Honestly I liked it significantly more than the original HW, not that that's really the point of all this

            • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              My major hesitation with it is that I'm not sure what is essentially an expansion (as far as I can tell? but I could be wrong about that) to the original should be full price.

              • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                4 years ago

                I'm not sure what would make it an expansion or not, but it has its own campaign (and it's pretty long) and every character plays differently from ones in the original HW as far as I can remember- Link is the closest to being the same, but you can also give him greatswords or spears for completely different movesets.

                It really doesn't feel like an expansion to me

    • disco [any]
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      4 years ago

      But what if you like to play good games?