In one sense I agree with you and I'm pretty left unity gang generally. But imperialist discourse is so fucking extreme and the pandemic has made the necessity of a disciplined state command economy so vital I think that anarchism is really being shown up for a lot of its deficiencies at the moment
"The Communists are distinguished from the other working-class parties by this only:
In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality
In the various stages of development which the struggle of the working class against the bourgeoisie has to pass through, they always and everywhere represent the interests of the movement as a whole."
So you disagree with Marx that communists should “point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality?” It’s like a basic principle of proletarian internationalism.
America is currently the strongest capitalist nation, although as you point out and as evidenced by the military failures, US imperialism has been on the decline in relative strength as the US loses ground economically. The vacuum from that relative decline is taken up by other imperialist powers, and capitalism marches on on the backs of the international working class.
Nice rant, you managed to be completely non-responsive.
So, again, you disagree with Marx on the basic principle of proletarian internationalism? Because all I posted was a quote from the communist manifesto and your brain spewed out all that nonsense about “supreme evil” (talk about making your politics religious).
I don’t support the Democratic Party, period, including AOC or Sanders. I don’t support US imperialism. I stand in solidarity with the working class in China, as I do with the rest of the international working class.
Based on that internationalism, I don’t support the betrayal of the Chinese revolution, throwing away the gains of that revolution, and the reinstatement of the rule of the bourgeoisie in China. You can talk all you want about how America is the greater “evil,” but it doesn’t change that analysis.
I'm not an anarchist myself, I'm more of a Demosc (I'm heavily electoralist for personal reasons) with Maoist influences (my theory itself is largely maoist-derived) So I'm not a fan of an echo chamber for either MLs or anarchists.
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In one sense I agree with you and I'm pretty left unity gang generally. But imperialist discourse is so fucking extreme and the pandemic has made the necessity of a disciplined state command economy so vital I think that anarchism is really being shown up for a lot of its deficiencies at the moment
Sincerely,
DBTraven
Wait can we all sign off on our comments now?
- 7DeadlyFetishes
That doesn't mean we need to jack of Xi Jingping with every post.
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Look everyone, someone wants to have more libs.
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"The Communists are distinguished from the other working-class parties by this only:
In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality
In the various stages of development which the struggle of the working class against the bourgeoisie has to pass through, they always and everywhere represent the interests of the movement as a whole."
(https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm)
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So you disagree with Marx that communists should “point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality?” It’s like a basic principle of proletarian internationalism.
America is currently the strongest capitalist nation, although as you point out and as evidenced by the military failures, US imperialism has been on the decline in relative strength as the US loses ground economically. The vacuum from that relative decline is taken up by other imperialist powers, and capitalism marches on on the backs of the international working class.
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Nice rant, you managed to be completely non-responsive.
So, again, you disagree with Marx on the basic principle of proletarian internationalism? Because all I posted was a quote from the communist manifesto and your brain spewed out all that nonsense about “supreme evil” (talk about making your politics religious).
I don’t support the Democratic Party, period, including AOC or Sanders. I don’t support US imperialism. I stand in solidarity with the working class in China, as I do with the rest of the international working class.
Based on that internationalism, I don’t support the betrayal of the Chinese revolution, throwing away the gains of that revolution, and the reinstatement of the rule of the bourgeoisie in China. You can talk all you want about how America is the greater “evil,” but it doesn’t change that analysis.
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This feels more like ML raddle at this point than ChapoTrapHouse.
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I'm not an anarchist myself, I'm more of a Demosc (I'm heavily electoralist for personal reasons) with Maoist influences (my theory itself is largely maoist-derived) So I'm not a fan of an echo chamber for either MLs or anarchists.
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'Yes.meme'
The people who managed to make the jump here are way more online than even the regular sub posters, it's gonna be like this for awhile yet.
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Yeah for real, and it's almost always angry tankies. Can we have some left unity?
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Same mab, I just wanna grill
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