(and that's why they're called the Democrats)

    • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Very similar to the Canadian Liberal Party, which has been unironically called "the natural governing party of Canada." They don't really have a consistent set of principles, they conform to whatever shape is required in order to get elected.

        • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          If they wanted to be that, they would, but they clearly hate governing or using power. They've shown time and again that they'd rather lose than have to do something that Republicans wouldn't like.

            • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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              4 years ago

              They might seem stupid, and yet we saw the efficiency with which they coalesced to stop Sanders.

              They're capable of being competent when they want to be. Their seeming incompetence against Republicans can only be intentional

            • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I don't think it's stupidity keeping them from that goal. Their opponents certainly aren't that clever. I think that they're just nerds who like procedure and norms and process, and they genuinely believe that if they aren't in power, it's because the American people made a conscious and conscientious choice not to elect them.

              That's why they are far, far more responsible for America's problems than the Republicans. There will always be shitty people doing shitty things, but the Democrats actively suppress the efforts to do good things on the basis that the system must be allowed to work. Meanwhile, Republicans do actual politics because they understand that the "system" is whatever you can get away with.

                • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I would call it irrationality rather than stupidity, but that’s splitting hairs. Your point is sound. Democrats - both officials and supporters - have West Wing brain, which both loses them elections, and stops them from doing anything useful when they do manage to accidentally trip and end up in power.

    • Parysian [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      What the democrats could be if they were interested in / capable of wielding power