why does the US still just routinely mutilate children? fuck john kellogg's eugenicist corn flake ass

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    Let's be clear that not all fathers who circumcised their sons are driving a cycle of abuse. Especially not that long ago when it was just viewed as a normal thing many people did. These parents simply didn't know better. They weren't abusing their kids. They didn't do it based on ego. It was just something you did with newborns.

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      I do sympathize with parents who didn't know better, including my loving parents. The medical establishment is to blame. Nobody who chooses circumcision thinks they are abusing their son, nor are they criminally negligent. But I can't say that someone who circumcises their son isn't technically continuing the cycle. Also, sorry to hear about your son.

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        Lol I don't have kids and I'm not planning to. Just think people on here get a little extreme about the whole circumcision thing.

        • Amorphous [any]
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          i would hope people would be "a little extreme" about widespread, normalized infant genital mutilation

          you are the weird one for not being upset about it

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            I didn't say anyone was weird. That's just my opinion.

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      Abuse is still abuse even if it's normal and even if you don't think it's abuse.

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        Just because you think it's abuse doesn't mean it is.

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          mutilating your child's genitals without anesthetic for cosmetic reasons is abuse. if you disagree with that you're fucking wrong.

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            That's the thing. A lot of parents didn't do it for aesthetic reasons. They thought it was healthier. This is what I mean when I say people are extreme about it. You're being completely hostile about it. The reality is it's an unnecessary practice we should stop doing but it doesn't negativity affect the lives of the vast majority of people it's done to. Implying that every circumcised male in history was abused by their parents is ludicrous.

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              mutilating your child's genitals because you couldn't be bothered to inform yourself about it is also abuse

              imagine making this argument for literally any other form of abuse. hell, even any other form of mutilation. oh, yeah, i cut off the baby's earlobes because, uhh ... i get cysts in mine sometimes and thats kinda scary. earlobes must be bad.

              and yes, im being hostile. we should be hostile toward INFANT GENITAL MUTILATION and those who support it.

              • Phish [he/him, any]
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                But you're being hostile to somebody who doesn't support it.

                It's not that parents couldn't be bothered to inform themselves. They were given the wrong information. Though it is factually correct that it's more hygienic.

                I would argue that missing earlobes has a more profound effect on a person than missing foreskin.

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                  But you’re being hostile to somebody who doesn’t support it.

                  then why are you supporting it right now? downplaying its severity, going "its not so bad, you guys are overreacting" that shit is supporting it. if you dont support INFANT GENITAL MUTILATION then stop supporting it. you can't say you don't support it and then go around supporting it

                  It’s not that parents couldn’t be bothered to inform themselves.

                  yes it is

                  They were given the wrong information.

                  I'm given wrong information about things all the time, and so are you. Hopefully you don't just believe the first thing you're told and refuse to ever look into it, especially if you're planning to MUTILATE ANOTHER PERSON'S GENITALS.

                  Though it is factually correct that it’s more hygienic.

                  no it isnt you fucking genital mutilation advocating goddamn freak. fuck you