Good evening comrades and welcome to your weekly mental health thread. This is the last week of the year, how is everyone doing? How was your year? How was your Christmas?

  • BillyMays [he/him]
    ·
    4 years ago

    Idk how I feel about this once an addict always an addict rhetoric. I can see how something is harmful to me and choosing not to engage in it, but if I start using I’ll be addicted again, doesn’t sit right with me. Thoughts?

      • BillyMays [he/him]
        ·
        4 years ago

        Yeah, this is what my counselor tells me. But I smoked weed again a week ago and guess what. I haven’t used since. Before that it had been two months. I don’t want to be an addict anymore, but I also don’t want to feel all this guilt and shame if I ever choose to smoke again. I’m told that’s the addict mind. Idk

          • CarlMarksToeCheese [comrade/them]
            ·
            edit-2
            4 years ago

            Your point isn't harmful, but I don't agree with it for myself. I used to be addicted to opiods and I absolutely agree with this "once an addict, always an addict" thought because if was prescribed or given those again I would act very differently with them/use them differently then someone who has never used them before or how I would before I ever got into that. Also the hypothetical pipeline between me being prescribed something for a legitimate injury and then turning to hitting up a dealer when I run out is much shorter than before I started and it always will be. I have a similar experience with binge drinking and have seen the cycle of quitting, to "only sometimes" to "back to my old habits" and how quick that goes.

            Kudos for OP though, they seem to have a support system and if they feel it doesn't apply to them that's okay, I don't think it does for everyone but it's a good short hand to describe how easy it is to fall back into old habits. It also helps me handle the occasional "slip up" where I fall off the wagon; I fight addiction every day in my eyes and losing the battle on one day shouldn't lead me to feel like I tossed out years of winning.

            Now, most of the time I hear that phrase it's from a place of distrust, maybe money went missing and someone points a finger or someone is applying for a job, and that is absolutely puritanical. And you are right, there is a loaded amount of shame that gets tied to drug use and that phrase, so most of the time I hear it outside of anon groups or therapy I tense up.

            But anyway, I find it useful because it helped identify patterns for myself and actually address them.

      • BillyMays [he/him]
        ·
        edit-2
        4 years ago

        Yeah I listened to that podcast. Even suggested it in this comm. it’s helped me.

    • sappho [she/her]
      ·
      4 years ago

      I don't like that phrase either. I've read quite a bit on addiction, and I think a lot of mainstream rhetoric on it is moralistic and not grounded in evidence. If you're open to literature recommendations, two books that have shaped my opinions on this are Chasing the Scream and In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts.

      • BillyMays [he/him]
        ·
        edit-2
        4 years ago

        Yes I very much am. Thank you I will check them out.

        E:Just listened to RevLeft’s podcast on Billie Holiday a couple weeks ago. Then reading the opening of Chasing the Scream. Her life sounds horrific. I really feel for her.