Through extrapolation we will have 1 billion Amish by 2030.

If we can use their anti-consumerist culture to convert them into anarcho-primitivists, we can have a powerful ally.

  • Ithorian [comrade/them, he/him]
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    They frequently terribly abuse their animals, working horses to death and such. Obviously not as bad as factory farms but still really distributing to see.

    Their opinion on women's rights is also problematic to say the least.

        • KamalaHarrisPOTUS [he/him]
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          You better be vegan too if youre mad at me and amish and not the meat industry, if so carry on otherwise stfu

          and if you are vegan you probably know how much more suffering is caused by "modern" agriculture so idk who this take is even for lol

          • Ithorian [comrade/them, he/him]
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            1: I even said they weren't as bad as factory farms in my post.

            2: I would hope even people who do eat meat don't think animal cruelty is a joke.

            3: I've been vegetarian for 20 years and take this shit so seriously I bought a fucking farm so I can source as much of my own food as possible.

    • sederqueer [none/use name]
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      While we're at it:

      We don't want Jews as allies (Hasidic problematic stuff).

      We don't want Muslims as allies (Sharia problematic stuff).

      We don't want Hindus as allies (Caste problematic stuff).

      We don't want African-Americans as allies (deadbeat dad problematic stuff).

      We don't want Hispanics as allies (machismo problematic stuff).

      -I am very smart

  • queenjamie [none/use name]
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    Jesus some of these takes on the Amish in this thread are pretty much what right-wingers say about "muzzlims" and "Afghan savages": "They don't treat their women well! They abuse animals! We don't want them as allies!"

    Applying colonialist, imperialist, and orientalist attitudes in the domestic sphere.... and applying it to a group of people who are just as "white" as the majority... seems like this has happened before... hmmm I think there's a word for that ... 🤔

    Just gonna say it as a POC who's interacted with Amish/Mennonites for my entire life: the Amish are faaar better allies than many of the so-called white "leftists."

    • fratsarerats [none/use name]
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      Yeah for real. Just imagine how they feel about people from other cultures. This is some liberal Karen style racism shit.

      • sederqueer [none/use name]
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        It's worse than that: it's actually not that much different from anti-semitism on the left. It's ironic that there was a whole thread about it, but when it comes to the Amish, it's a-ok to completely shit on them. As someone who's not really religious but grew up with half of my family being Jewish, the rhetoric in this thread is pretty much what I used to hear some relatives from my non-Jewish side say (e.g. "durr hurr look at those Hasidic creepers with all their inbreeding," not to different from this comment right here: https://hexbear.net/post/66207/comment/679969).

        Not to mention there's a lot of weird eugenic shit in this thread (e.g. a comment where one person talks about "modern solutions" if the Amish refuse birth control: https://hexbear.net/post/66207/comment/680090). Jesus Christ...

  • CommCat [none/use name]
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    with all their inbreeding, they'll return to monke like true primitivists.