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  • Wmill [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I liked Drawn together. Show was racist, sexist, bigoted probably everything really. Also had Adam Carrolla. Despite this that show made me laugh. I would never have watched it if my irl friends didn't tbh, all who are lgbt. Never watched the movie though and don't wanna, seen the animation go down in that.

    • WalterBongjammin [they/them,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Lmao, my friend showed me this show recently because they remembered it being good. It felt very of its time and I kind of hated every moment. It was very funny seeing their dismay at the dissonance between memory and reality tho

      • Wmill [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Admittedly haven't seen it in years and don't wanna sit through it. Might watch clips but that's it since no means to watch it.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    So, deep cut

    There's a video game called Urban Chaos: Riot Response what came out in the PS2 era

    It's basically "What if Cops got the chance to murder indiscriminately": the game

    You play as a cop who's a member of the T-Zero (Zero Tolerance) Unit, which means you get a bulletproof riot shield, a taser that can set people on fire and absolutely no oversight

    When a gang called The Burners starts going apeshit, you go in and brutalize them across the city.

    The big twist of the game (if you can call it that) is that The Burners are actually all Union members pissed off that the city canceled their contracts or something

    It's morally and ethically repugnant, but goddamn the shooting mechanics are smooth, the scoring system rewards you for playing aggressively and you can do some wild things with that magic riot shield

    It's also very notable that the team that made it was also the team that got handed the Batman: Arkham series, so when everyone was all like "I never heard of these guys, it's gonna suck", I was just thinking "Man, it's gonna be great"

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It kinda rules that most NSBM is shit musically. Fascists. They're usually bad at art, folks.

    • RandyLahey [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Not much of an excuse, but for what it's worth it does seem like a lot of the fashy stuff in black metal (along with the satanism and the church burning etc) is just a bunch of comfortable-but-alienated Norwegian kids trying desperately to seem as edgy and shocking as possible without any actual ideological underpinnings. I mean except for like Varg obviously, but fuck that guy. I mean this is a bunch of people running the world's most eeeeeeeevil trve kvlt record store from euronymous' mum's basement lol and screeching about inverted goats and mordor and shit while wearing bad kiss makeup, they're kinda the definition of trying too hard

  • acealeam [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I like some pop punk, even though most of them are pedophiles :/

  • NeoAnabaptist [any]
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    4 years ago

    LCD Soundsystem has some really annoying smug centrist lyrics here and there and I still dig their stuff. Not actually problematic though.

  • sandinista209 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Superhero movies and tv. A lot of it is reactionary and generic af but I grew up with it and when its done well it can be great escapism.

    • darwinpolice [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, I learned to read with Marvel comics. That shit has had its hooks in me for as long as I've been aware of culture. Even when the movies are really bad (both in terms of being bad movies and being bad morally), I still pretty much always like them.

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    4 years ago

    Shit, if I have to list all of the poems I admire that were written by fascists or fascist sympathizers we'd be here all day and I'd have a permaban for reactionary upvotes. Pound's politics were unequivocally reprehensible, and Yeats and Eliot were godawful in that department, too.

    There's a good case to be made that Pound's fascism infected his poetry even if you excise the transparently ugly bits (see Robert Casillo's The Genealogy of Demons if you're interested, or the Pound chapter in Bob Perelman's The Trouble With Genius). It's not a coincidence that he did most of his best work before he was 35, around the time World War I and its aftermath had fully broken his brain. The word "usury" shows up for the first time in "Hugh Selwyn Mauberley," from 1920, and in many ways it was downhill from there . . .

    Pound's got no one to blame but himself if his very name is nauseating to most people. But he wrote many, many beautiful things, and his influence on literature, both as a result of his own writings and of those whom he promoted, is absolutely massive.

    "What thou lovest well shall not be reft from thee . . . what thou lovest well is thy true heritage." Maybe not the best thing to quote in a problematic likes thread. Nevertheless !

    P.S. - If you're looking for a great, innovative Marxist poet, check out Louis Zukofsky, himself a friend and protege of Pound's, to whom Pound dedicated Guide to Kulchur. Pound liked to use Zukofsky as an example of "my Jewish friend" to prove that his anti-Semitism wasn't all that bad, but Zukofsky's letters to Pound are full of entreaties for him to shut the fuck up. Anyway, Zukofsky has a whole section of his magnum opus, "A", that's in the form of a Guido Cavalcanti canzone, but uses only words and phrases found in (iirc) Chapter 10 of Das Kapital. It's pretty fucking cool.

  • dolphinhuffer [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Me, bracing to have an anvil made of downvotes dropped on my head : Pound is not a problematic like. He is uncontroversially one of the most important poets of the English language. Pound spent time in a mental institution, and his own interpretation of fascism, which was deeply unusual and not really shared by anyone, was something he eventually renounced. He was by all accounts a very personally decent guy.

    • Wertheimer [any]
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      4 years ago

      Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that while he renounced the "horrible, suburban prejudice of anti-Semitism," he never explicitly disavowed the fascism. That said, given that his final years were consumed by a depression so deep he spent them in almost complete silence, he was presumably wracked with a guilt that may have made a formal renunciation superfluous.

      Gertrude Stein disliked Pound, partially because he broke her favorite chair. She also said he was a "village explainer, excellent if you were a village, but if not, not."