• QuillQuote [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Is there any part of the place that's not worth more to humanity as a smoldering crater?

            • determinism [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              My science teacher in elementary school taught me that my state used to be a vast shallow sea.

              Make america great again?

          • ElGosso [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I think Scotland and some of the north are salvageable

            • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Most of the North is going full reactionary. Unions are mostly weak or uselessly centrist. The militants of previous generations are retired and wedded to their house prices. What was disillusionment with Labour is now mostly disgust after the shitshow of the last few years. Even a lot of older well-meaning dem-socs were tricked or bullied into voting against labour (either Green or Lib Dem) in the European election over some idiotic EU flag waving protest vote and almost none came back to Labour in the general election. And for lots of people who used to consider themselves left wing the centrist voice of the Labour Party and totality of the media has called them nothing but racists, lunatics, thugs, Russian stooges, and anti-semites. The only vote they've gotten anything out of in 25 years is voting for Brexit, many out of pure frustration.

              The most ardent have given up. The hopeful organisers have resigned themselves to charity work that'll help prop up ongoing austerity. The vast majority see no point in fighting an impossible battle & would rather vote for the winning side to save face at least since they have nothing else left.

              I see more Q-Anon references and slogans than I do Labour signs here. It's fucked, it's going to get worse, and most have accepted their fate or thrown themselves of the deep end.

          • VolcelPolice [any]
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            4 years ago

            As someone who lives here, no not really. I mean maybe keep the Lake District? But aside from that burn it down

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        “Pro-Corbyn staff inspected tens of thousands of former staff emails in January 2020 to try and find evidence of their ridiculous conspiracy theory. They found nothing because it is not real. They are trying to build a mythical ‘stab in the back’ conspiracy theory to absolve themselves of the consequences of their incompetence.”

        The argument given by one of the perpetrators. I'm almost impressed that they managed to work antisemitism in there.

        • steely_its_a_dildo [any]
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          4 years ago

          sure we called him an anti-semite and did all we could to convince the public that he is ill fitted to be a leader, but after all that we really wanted him to succeed.

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Boy I sure do love trying to convince hard working, well intentioned but terminally electoralism brained leftists in the UK to not just try and take control of the Labour Party again in 5/10/15/underwater years, only to go through this completely rigged bullshit again and to agitate outside of the traditional party system!

    Don't get me wrong, Corbyn was (and is) the Absolute Boy but at this stage the Labour Party needs to be burned to the ground for the British left to blossom.