HOT TAKE! It can't be both.

NephewAlphaBravo phrased this better than I did.

Inviting libs means inviting a constant stream of new users’ shitty takes. “Place where we constantly rehash this shit with libs” is in direct tension with “place where trans users can just chill and not have to rehash this shit”

I'm not trying to say "a good lib-to-left pipeline community means we shouldn't fight transphobia".

I'm saying we should decide if we want to clap up all Transphobia and protect our feelings, or engage with people that might only have a few brain worms and sort them out in order to grow a larger community.

Ban trenched in transphobes. Acknowledge that being transphobic is the default in 2021 and many people who identify as leftist probably have some transphobic views. Last year I didn't like neo-pronouns and I quickly had my mind changed. A few years ago I agreed with Obama when he said BLM were thugs. Is this supposed to be a community where people like me can come to learn and be radicalized?

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah it absolutely can be both. This is a bad take. Libs can show up, see that the community is a positive safe space for trans and other marginalized communities, see that's a healthy and good thing, and change their worldview as a result.

    I actually think we CANNOT have a good lib to left pipeline WITHOUT this being a safe space for trans and other marginalized communities.

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah this is a garbage fucking take. Embarassing that this obvious stupidpol bullshit is upvoted. "we need to sell out the marginalized to appeal to liberals" is literally the entire thesis of their community.