For ChaChas wanting to learn more about Korea:
uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire
Uncritical support/stannery for the DPRK and it's stand against Amerikkkan imperialism
Can you point to where its a monarchy? Where does it talk about that in their constitution? Got any party members on the record "we think monarchy is fine".
They're likely referring to the Ten Principles for the Establishment of a Monolithic Ideological System, point 10 being:
- The great revolutionary accomplishments pioneered by the Great Leader Comrade KIM Il Sung must be succeeded and perfected by hereditary succession until the end. The firm establishment of the sole leadership system is the crucial assurance for the preservation and development of the Great leader's revolutionary accomplishments, while achieving the final victory of the revolution.
And yes, before you say it, I understand that Wikipedia isn't a 100% accurate source on communist ideologies, I'm just citing what op is PROBABLY referencing.
Yeah, that seems dorky, but it's also not part of their main constitution and it isn't like Kim Jong Un directs everything in the country. It seems like it was originally done to cement the DPRK on the socialist path.
Well he was elected to the position and things seem to be going pretty darn well. Like what material thing can you even point to in terms of the DPRK being a monarchy other than that document and the current leader? Is Kim Jong Un like super rich and living in luxury compared to everyone else in the country? Is he wasting money that could be used for other things? Or is he just a normal politician or head of state?
True, but while a General Secretary has more power than any other individual, they do not hold the absolute power that a monarch does. That's why General Secretary Stalin sometimes had his votes and decisions overruled.
with all the political dynasties in america this prolly aint the argument to make in favor of dprk
Straight up said that it’s commonplace for North Koreans as a whole to understand it to be a dictatorship
Yeah, they call it a dictatorship of the proletariat. It's a Marxist concept. They are Marxist.
Juche Gang was white people nonsense
If I'm thinking of the same post as you, they said that North Koreans have a difficult time understanding how a gang could be seen as something positive. It's absolutely because they don't have hip hop culture over there. I don't think that makes it bad to say "Juche gang", because we say it to other Western comrades who understand the intention behind the phrase.
Didn't korea take out all references to socialism and communism in 2009?
Counterpoint : If you dont want counterrevolutionaries to gain power maybe dont place all power with a state that can be easily corrupted and instead arm the entire population so they can defend the revolution on their own? Finding it real hard to reconcile gun control and proletarian democracy here.
Gun ownership is non-negotiable. If USA backs insurgents then the remaining 95% of the population that is armed can stop the insurgents.
You’re being idealist.
No u. Calling people revisionists/idealists/wreckers is not a substitute for intelligent discourse.
Such an insurgency would not be a single event that plays out like an conflict in RISK. It would be continuous and it would cripple the DPRK even further than it had already been crippled. The US would do whatever it needed to to keep recruiting insurgents and keep the DPRK in a state of chaos until the government collapsed.
The stability of the state is dependent on military power being able to crush opposition. This function is not reduced by having an armed population unless the true nature of the state is such that the population is actually opposed to it. If the general population is genuinely supportive of the state, arming them will only increase the power of the military, and therefore the state itself.
You can see this in practice in the USA. Any leftist movement will get crushed not just by the state, but by armed chuds who are opposed to them. Similarly, any counterrevolutionary movement in NK will have to face both the state and armed civilians loyal to the state.
Your argument would be true if
(i) The DPRK wasnt exploitative itself (ii) The DPRK is perfect and there is no valid internal dissent that would ever arise
The state has no incentive to not just crush dissent since the population is unarmed. NK statistics clearly show their economic growth is stagnating, and they living standards are quite poor. Even Kim Jong Un admits their five year plan failed.
And anyone who actually read Marx would point out that exploitation is not absent from NK, because of the presence of commodity production, inflation, hidden and regressive taxation etc. Unless people in NK are somehow innocent lambs that must never be corrupted, there is also no reason to have restrictions on freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, restrictions on internet etc.
North Korea is not even good at developing productive forces, so what's the point? They are being outclassed by Vietnam, Indonesia, Laos etc. Clearly the DPRK is doing a terrible job, and unfortunately any dissent is impossible.
Sorry for not participating in Juche worship
The alternative to "dont place all power with a state" is not "dont have states at all".
A state is a sovereign organization wielding a monopoly on violence that is formed by one class for the purpose of subjugating another.
Ok, in this definition, is there anything saying that the monopoly of violence MUST be in the form of a standing army made up of a small percent of people, rather than an army made up of the entire proletariat? Wouldn't the second case also be a state?
No. If the army doesn't answer to the state, then it isn't an extension of the state's power.
If you support gun control you are not a communist. This opportunist vanguardist "giving power to the people has a 2% chance of increasing counterrevolution!!11" has no place in Marxist socialism. I will call out any person who claims to be a Marxist and supports gun control. Just admit you don't believe in Marxism.
