See https://chuangcn.org/2020/11/delivery-renwu-translation/ for another expose on the brutality of working conditions imposed on delivery workers in China, by a Marxist collective
See https://chuangcn.org/2020/11/delivery-renwu-translation/ for another expose on the brutality of working conditions imposed on delivery workers in China, by a Marxist collective
Yeah, it should. My immediate response to this sort of thing is that it probably is, but it's not perfect. Obviously this is a bad thing that is happening in China, and should be pointed out, but my rule of thumb is that china is likely better on the whole, but only because America is so bad. Was thinking on was in reddit, I guess. You all know this
Labor is better in China? I really don't think any serious person can make this argument. Average working conditions in China today are miles and miles better than they were 10-20-30 years ago, while an American laborer has seen a stagnation or decrease in working conditions - that's true. But the average working person in China has a much much worse working condition than the average American working person.
The question of course becomes complicated when you start to discuss global economics, geopolitics, or CCP's 'ultimate goal,' which I absolutely won't get into (because I'm not smart enough). But I think you should rethink applying your "rule of thumb" so broadly. Even if you support China 100%.
Watching American Factory (produced by the Obama's I know) gives really amazing insight into this, the confrontation of Chinese workers and American former union workers is great. Unfortunately it doesn't give much insight to the global capitalism aspect, but it has incredible footage of the experience of ordinary workers on both sides. Highly highly recommend.
I'll check it out. Im uninformed in general about this topic. I do remember the suicide nets at foxcon, so yeah definitely not good
Didn't mean to seem more informed, especially on this topic I'm definitely still incredibly uninformed. But this website often makes complicated issues seem simple, when they really are not.
When it comes to Chinese labor rights though, it's also important to remember that a single country its own is powerless against global capitalism. So much of the surplus value produced in China goes to western capitalists. So to critique Chinese labor practices it's not nearly enough to be anti-CCP, because western capitalism is a fundamental part of the equation. Any successful leftist project is inevitably forced to "open up" their markets to global capitalism, or face economic disaster as a result of being sanctioned & left out of the market, not to mention invaded and overthrown.
i mean the suicide rate is still much lower lmao there's a reason someone put those nets on the liberal media
Anecdotal evidence is basically meaningless for sure. We got suicide nets in america too. Which is why I had such a strong reaction to the article I think. Just came across as propaganda