I'm not sure if this is supposed to be posted here but I'm not sure this would be welcome in c/wallstreetbets (lmao) either. It's just sad and dispiriting. Not really gonna say more about this because it's been pretty draining tbh.

Also, before someone says "well I don't think it's WRONG to talk about this, and I don't think it's praxis, and y'know I had to pay rent and spent some money on this and I just like laughing at Melvin eating shit and...." cool, I'm not talking about you, you know which people I am talking about.

  • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Literally no one is saying that. Log off and stop looking for excuses to downplay massive radicalization opportunities because they aren't ideal.

    • PhaseFour [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Making up a person, just to get mad at them, is the most annoying online past-time.

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Seems like everyone who's complaining about this shit is doing that exact meme, meanwhile most of the people getting excited about it are drawing from actual experience and things they've seen

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
        hexagon
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        edit-2
        4 years ago

        You know what's more annoying? A bunch of people telling you "haha literally no one thinks that!" while a bunch of other people are literally telling you exactly the thing supposedly no one is saying.

        Check this shit out: https://hexbear.net/post/77759/comment/832686

        Not one of the ones who were replying to me and thankfully they were banned, but dude, there's some seriously bad takes going around.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        4 years ago

        The amount of heavily upvoted leftist agitprop I've seen on the wsb sub in the past week or so begs to differ

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        The thing is, that mindset is ironically the most "western leftist" thing I can think of. You're disqualifying a community of hundreds of thousands of people (at least) because they have some reactionary ideological tendencies. I know it's a stretch to compare this to a revolution, but do you think Mao's communists cared that their primary target for recruitment were illiterate peasants? It didn't matter after the revolution, because guess what - they reached out, radicalized them as best they could, and gave them the education they needed to understand communism. Now these people aren't peasants by any means, but they're not competent elites either. They have flawed ideals of capitalism, and their appreciation for it is based on myths and faulty logic. Many smart people fall into ideological pits when they've been brainwashed into thinking the alternative is evil and dangerous. And it's our responsibility to show them otherwise.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Why do you think this is a "massive radicalization opportunity" exactly? Maybe for libertarianism I guess...

      Also literally many people are saying that lol

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        What part of "if you don't talk to them, someone else will" don't you people understand???

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
          hexagon
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          edit-2
          4 years ago

          Do you also think chuds burning their Nikes was a massive radicalization opportunity?

          • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            How are those in any way equivalent? There are literal unapologetic communists on WSB right now. What do you suggest we do instead?

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              There are literal unapologetic communists on WSB right now

              Yeah, there's like, at least 20.

              What do you suggest we do instead?

              What would you do any other day?

              • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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                4 years ago

                Do you think subreddits like WSB or hell, even The_Donald are/were this fucking miserable? No. The right has something we don't have - hype. There are virtually no serious downsides to "overreacting" to this potentially insignificant event, because like everything in this dogshit hypernormalized culture it will probably be forgotten within a month. I don't think you understand, we have to overreact to small victories sometimes; we have to have a sense of hype. Otherwise we're just a bunch of individual shitposters pointing and smiling at world events like senile old men at a retirement home watching birds go by.

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  4 years ago

                  The issue is exactly that you seem to think that the "contest" between whose subreddit is more hype is important to anyone other than a few redditors.

                  There are downsides. Beyond the very obvious, which is pushing people to the stock market. What you are saying right now reinforces even more my perception that people just have their brains completely broken by capitalism. Either you're hyped about stonks and meaningless subreddit contests, or you're completely inactive apparently. Is there nothing more you can think of?

                  There was less hype about Amazon unionising like a month ago. Think about that.

                  • BigPoopPalls [any]
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                    4 years ago

                    Yeah, that's exactly the problem. Y'all cowards don't even let yourselves get hype about your own victories. Stop being such a self serious person, you might be less miserable that way.

                    • Pezevenk [he/him]
                      hexagon
                      ·
                      4 years ago

                      I am seriously struggling to see what kind of victory it is that you people think achieved. This place will laugh at libs celebrating Biden and then will pull off shit like this.

                      • BigPoopPalls [any]
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                        4 years ago

                        Biden is a nothingburger, I might think it's pathetic to be super jazzed about him, but whatever. Here we have the exact people we all claim to absolutely loathe, people who everyone wants to see knocked down a peg, publicly losing their shit over a bunch of poors actively trying to screw them out of their ill-gotten gains. I think that's worth at least a small amount of approval.

      • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I've literally had libertarians talk pure marxism. There is definitely an opportunity there. Not super big but it definitely is

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Someone on this very site was telling me this GME thing is a bigger deal than the BLM protests.

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