How exactly do you expect to grow this place when there are constant posts like "Haha social democrats are fucking losers!!!" I wouldn't make an account here if I considered myself a socdem. Those are the people you can draw to the board, share ideas with, and radicalize...right? I don't get the point of shitting on people that are actually really close to getting it.
Idk who this person is but it is understandable that a person from a country being exploited and destroyed by imperialist nations to have a negative view of people who are “helping” build social programs for its people but have just as bad, or nearly as bad to the point of it being materially irrelevant, a track record of supporting imperialist policies towards the global south/poor and maybe express that in a somewhat vitriolic way.
And I think it’s kinda of chauvinist to think we should mollycoddle some westerners over the voice of extremely exploited people who are hurt by those policies.
Now if she’s a westerner or whatever my point still stands that we gotta learn about this stuff eventually.
I was once a western chauvinist socdem until a communist called me out on it, I did self-crit over time and now i see where they were coming from.
Yeah so long as Bernie supports drone strikes and votes to confirm CIA ghouls to cabinet positions, American SocDems should never complain about leftists in the global south making fun of them.
I mean, I was still calling myself a liberal when I started using the old sub
sure I didn't feel welcome at first, so instead I listened, learned and adapted until I was welcomed
on the other hand, I was already used to hanging out in online spaces that were actively hostile to me and my opinions, which may not be true of most people
Honestly, it isn't bad to have people dunk on SocDems. They killed Karl and Rosa after all (and gave up worker's solidarity for Imperialistic nationalist WW1).
ML's wonder why social democrats / democratic socialists hate them. I didn't even consider ML stuff until I met some irl and they had way better faith looks at my takes. Now I'm way more leaning towards their direction.
Easy, if they're so close to getting it then they will be able to laugh at themselves, if not then nothing of value has been lost. Converting libs should not be your goal, only separating the wheat from the chaff.
How exactly do you expect to grow this place when there are constant posts like "Haha social democrats are fucking losers!!!" I wouldn't make an account here if I considered myself a socdem. Those are the people you can draw to the board, share ideas with, and radicalize...right? I don't get the point of shitting on people that are actually really close to getting it.
Idk who this person is but it is understandable that a person from a country being exploited and destroyed by imperialist nations to have a negative view of people who are “helping” build social programs for its people but have just as bad, or nearly as bad to the point of it being materially irrelevant, a track record of supporting imperialist policies towards the global south/poor and maybe express that in a somewhat vitriolic way.
And I think it’s kinda of chauvinist to think we should mollycoddle some westerners over the voice of extremely exploited people who are hurt by those policies.
Now if she’s a westerner or whatever my point still stands that we gotta learn about this stuff eventually.
I was once a western chauvinist socdem until a communist called me out on it, I did self-crit over time and now i see where they were coming from.
Yeah so long as Bernie supports drone strikes and votes to confirm CIA ghouls to cabinet positions, American SocDems should never complain about leftists in the global south making fun of them.
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I mean, I was still calling myself a liberal when I started using the old sub
sure I didn't feel welcome at first, so instead I listened, learned and adapted until I was welcomed
on the other hand, I was already used to hanging out in online spaces that were actively hostile to me and my opinions, which may not be true of most people
Honestly, it isn't bad to have people dunk on SocDems. They killed Karl and Rosa after all (and gave up worker's solidarity for Imperialistic nationalist WW1).
ML's wonder why social democrats / democratic socialists hate them. I didn't even consider ML stuff until I met some irl and they had way better faith looks at my takes. Now I'm way more leaning towards their direction.
The subreddit swelled to hundreds of thousands of people on the back of posting pigpoopballs at chuds and shitting on socdems i think we'll be fine.
Easy, if they're so close to getting it then they will be able to laugh at themselves, if not then nothing of value has been lost. Converting libs should not be your goal, only separating the wheat from the chaff.
No! If this site reaches over 15K it will get too big and suck and we will long for the old days. Stop posting anything, so no one else joins.