It’s no good folks. Let’s all stop pretending to enjoy it and maybe it will go away.
high end art culture is bad, since rich people are bad.
normal people making normal art is good.
:sicko-charging: is better than anything worth $500k or more
Art is inherently bourgeois. Does a proletarian make or enjoy art? No! When he comes home from the racism factory he hangs up his hard hat, opens up a cold one and watches a sport ball on tv.
Art can also be noble. Not in the moral sense, like the class that predates the Bourgeoisie.
well yeah, I've compared flemish paintings of game and fruits to instagram photos of food at expensive restaurants. But Art and visual language is a tool and any tool can be used by the ruling class and its dialectical opposite. Countless statues were erected to dictators and the achievements of the ruling class; simultaneously hundreds of artifacts have been found at mining sites and slave camps where people dedicated artistic offerings to the Gods for relief and salvation.
what like flipping through a coffee table book once a year? sure I guess
Thesis: art is bad
Antithesis: the process of making art is good though
Synthesis: everyone should make art as a hobby but then be forced to immediately destroy whatever was produced
Not sure that using Wagner's original plan for the Ring Cycle (burn the only score and the concert hall down during the climax of Gotterdammerung) is as leftist a position as we might like.
There really is something life-affirming about the minutiae of making art. The older I get, the more I really feel the process, and then become reluctant to finish anything. I get so attached to the problem-solving going on in any given piece, like finally I can feel like I’m using my brain and vibing with something that vibes back. It can be hard to cut that off.
I do also like looking at the end result, though.
honestly i don’t have a problem with art or music as background decoration. it’s just the worldwide societal worship of art and music that’s annoying. art is meaningless and boring.
I mean, if it wasn't for Bach's Mass in B Minor and Stan Roger's Mary Ellen Carter I'd probably not have been able to get through depression alive, but ok.
"drugs are good because I need them to survive" that's an argument against capitalism
The Soviet Union, famous haters of the fine arts. Also, art isn't a drug, it's a type of meaning you can impose on this howling void of emptiness we laughingly call a universe.
I don't think it's boring and it's not any less meaningful than anything else in the world so you're wrong
music is a type of art, and it is boring as shit. and i’m tired of pretending it’s not
I can kinda almost see thinking this about bougie paintings or whatever... but music is probably the most important form of art to people... Our brains definitely have some kind of affinity for music baked into them (in my opinion) - probably something to do with the fact we communicate by speech. I read an article about how dementia patients who can't hardly remember their names can remember songs from their youth - and can have a powerful calming effect on them when they get confused.
music is boring as fuck too, people pretend to enjoy it and idk why. like it’s not offensive or anything, but imagine inflicting the boredom levels of playing or listening to music on yourself
Music as sound is good, imo. As a way of conveying meaning, the way "artists" think of it, it's shit. It doesn't have any deep meaning. It's a way of manipulating emotion, just like drugs.
you just have a thing against art i guess. do you not enjoy movies, tv shows, or novels either? in any case it's a pretty subjective thing
This surely has 75 comments for a good reason. Let's see.
e: I don't know why people took this bait. Conflict addiction is real. You can't reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into.
it’s meaningless and boring regardless of economic system. the best you can say about it is it can be nicer looking than a blank wall
it’s totally meaningless, including that zapatista mural of zapata. it’s just a pic of a guy.
I'm tired af of opening up the arts section of the events page and seeing shit like "sunrise in Bogota : the son on a hedge fund manager lives abroad for a year and took photos, now he's going to display them at some bougie gallery". Everything rich people touch goes to shit.
“What possible insight could the bougoe hedge fund manager son have over a native photographer” would literally be the first thing out of my mouth,
Art is insightful, it’s just decades of art market hype has libbed the shit out of it.
it’s just boring as hell, and people pretend it has some meaning and magic power over them. like everyone’s walking around tripping balls all the time.
You sound like a devout mormon talking to an ex-mormon right now. You don’t even believe what you’re saying.
I’m well into my 30s, and I have made every effort to enjoy art for decades now. I learned to play an instrument. I have listened to a wide variety of musical genres. I have been to many art museums. I took the required art and music classes in college. Some of my friends are artists and musicians, and I am exposed to their stuff too.
It’s all boring and it’s always been boring.
people pretend
Maybe it's subjective and they are having an authentic emotional reaction to it?
Looking at art can be like getting into some sort of long running story, theres lots of backstory you have to bring in with you
Thats the fault of the artist. Or yours if you dont read what ever little blurb they usually get displayed with.
Which brings me to what i hate about contemporary art, a lot of it is coiled in personal and unshareable stories or ideas that you will likely miss. But it seems like many artists arent aware their art is basically the same as tearing a page out of a diary and expect their pieces explain themselves. I’ve seen incredible art pieces that artist was there for to explain the piece.
One example was an Iranian artist who studied in my school’s Masters program had a display piece of a date cut into 20 pieces and each piece on it’s own tiny pedestal spread throughout the walking space of this gallery. It was a representation of iranian prisoners having given no more than a date and water for 20 days.
It’s really a moment for ideas to manifest in ways we dont usually have them in regular day to day like. A simple story of a date over 20 days is one thing, but to see the pieces physically taking up a space is different. You dont think just how much a single date is.
My point is the artist has to be there to help explain the work for those curious. You can tell what artist is full of shit, what artist just likes to make things, and what artist has a lot to think about.
Actually have more respect for someone who notices that bougie art is shit, rather than pretend it's good against their own feelings.
Some art can be ok. I guess keep an open mind and don't feel pressured to be into shit that you're not.
Writing "poop " in your respective language on a very visible public space is the only legitimate art.
Watching a room full of well-educated upper class liberals give a standing ovation to man whose art is hacking up a couch with an electric saw is probably the cringest thing I've ever witnessed.
The real art statement was in charging them for the experience of denying they've been fooled.
I taped a banana to a wall. This is art.
I ate a banana I found taped to a wall. This is preformative art.
