Literally just decades after decades of losing

Having big doomer vibes rn :deeper-sadness:

  • TheCaconym [any]
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    4 years ago

    Honestly if I was born in the US I'd probably - not taking into account the brainwashing that I'd have endured though - have emigrated as soon as I reached majority, just based on the healthcare situation alone (though not before taking on a large school loan to never repay it). As a French dude, it's insane what you guys will tolerate - though it also makes sense, organizing is hard and your freaky culture of rugged individualism permeates everything.

    These days getting the fuck out makes even more sense - it's not hard to see the writing on the wall: the US are headed for a major collapse.

    With that being said, the US is also one of the most expensive countries in the world when it comes to renouncing US citizenship, so between that and the cost of emigrating in general "getting the fuck out" is actually pretty hard.

      • TheCaconym [any]
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        4 years ago

        $2,350. This charge is news to me

        And if you don't pay it/actually renounce the citizenship for a new one, you still have to report to the IRS; and they can still make you pay some taxes. All the banks are in on it, too, at least in EU countries, through international treaties (they call that bullshit "Mutual Collection Assistance Request Agreements"). I'm French and my own bank, despite me having nothing to do with the US, reminds me regularly with a popup that if I'm a US citizen (I'm not, thank god), I need to submit forms with the IRS. And they will comply with the US IRS if they ask for a money seizure on your accounts, due to the aforementioned treaties.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I'm trying to think of the amount of money it would take to convince me to move to the USA and it's somewhere between "Own Space Program" and "Singlehandedly finance the revolution"