I didn't see someone calling it an extermination camp? They're not vastly dissimilar in design or function to the earlier concentration camp system for 'protective custody' (prior to the war, attempt at larger scale slave labour and influx of prisoners as they imprisoned more Jewish, gay, Roma people, and prior to the full swing towards extermination with Soviet POWs)
A place for children without parents to stay for one to two months while we find a place for them to live is not “vastly dissimilar in design or function” from a slave labor camp? Really?
I think you missed the bit where I carved out the slave labour? And yes - at a minimum they should let the kids run around some fields, hire some teachers, social workers etc. instead of providing the minimum necessary for them to survive before shunting them off to sponsors
The article about this facility does mention a soccer field, basketball court and classrooms (which implies teachers), I don’t know the status of social workers at the facility or not.
Sorry I misunderstood your wording about excepting slave labor, but even putting that aside, this does literally have the exact opposite function of being a place designed to process these children into a society, not remove them from it as undesirables. So I don’t see how the comparison to Hitler which I was responding to is valid or useful.
I did read the article and others fawning about a visit they had, and I am remain pretty dubious. These places always have huge staffing problems, particularly when they're situated in the middle of nowhere, and if you can even get the kids to go to one of few classrooms, there are no assessments of education level so they get dumped in a one size fits all basic class teaching kids aged 13 to 17. Sex segregation intensifies those problems too.
I agree the comparison to Hitler is unhelpful, particularly because everyone thinks about extermination camps and not concentration camps, of which the earlier iterations are pretty similar to most detention facilities.
I was reading that they're usually placed with family too, so it's unclear to me why more resources aren't put into that component - apparently they only just started subsiding transport to take the kids to their placements too?
The facility in question is only being used because all the facilities have been reduced to half capacity to reduce risk of COVID outbreaks. It would seem we can’t really discuss this on this site without being extremely disingenuous about it.
An extermination camp exterminates.
Right, and that’s not what the facility in question is or does. Should we not try to be accurate when talking about these problems?
I didn't see someone calling it an extermination camp? They're not vastly dissimilar in design or function to the earlier concentration camp system for 'protective custody' (prior to the war, attempt at larger scale slave labour and influx of prisoners as they imprisoned more Jewish, gay, Roma people, and prior to the full swing towards extermination with Soviet POWs)
A place for children without parents to stay for one to two months while we find a place for them to live is not “vastly dissimilar in design or function” from a slave labor camp? Really?
I think you missed the bit where I carved out the slave labour? And yes - at a minimum they should let the kids run around some fields, hire some teachers, social workers etc. instead of providing the minimum necessary for them to survive before shunting them off to sponsors
The article about this facility does mention a soccer field, basketball court and classrooms (which implies teachers), I don’t know the status of social workers at the facility or not.
Sorry I misunderstood your wording about excepting slave labor, but even putting that aside, this does literally have the exact opposite function of being a place designed to process these children into a society, not remove them from it as undesirables. So I don’t see how the comparison to Hitler which I was responding to is valid or useful.
I did read the article and others fawning about a visit they had, and I am remain pretty dubious. These places always have huge staffing problems, particularly when they're situated in the middle of nowhere, and if you can even get the kids to go to one of few classrooms, there are no assessments of education level so they get dumped in a one size fits all basic class teaching kids aged 13 to 17. Sex segregation intensifies those problems too.
I agree the comparison to Hitler is unhelpful, particularly because everyone thinks about extermination camps and not concentration camps, of which the earlier iterations are pretty similar to most detention facilities.
I was reading that they're usually placed with family too, so it's unclear to me why more resources aren't put into that component - apparently they only just started subsiding transport to take the kids to their placements too?
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Well, unless there's an some kind of viral outbreak, but what are the chances of that happening?
The facility in question is only being used because all the facilities have been reduced to half capacity to reduce risk of COVID outbreaks. It would seem we can’t really discuss this on this site without being extremely disingenuous about it.