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  • Infamousblt [any]
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    4 years ago

    But. Everyone came out and did the :vote: blue thing. Blue wave. I thought that if we :vote: it was all fixed!

    Well maybe next time it'll work. We've tried :vote: for over 200 years now and it hasn't worked once but let's try again just in case.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Swear to God theyre deliberately drawing this out as long as humanly possible in the hopes they'll hit critical mass vaccination and not have to pass the bill

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'd say it's not the parties specifically, but the incentive structure created by how Congress is organized that does it. Every congressperson has their own projects they want to get off the ground, and one of the best strategies for an individual to get their bill passed is to rider it onto a different bill that might get passed. Incidentally, this is also the source of a lot of "X senator voted for Y Bad Thing" because the main body of the bill was probably about something else and they ended up voting for the bad thing too.

      It's a form of the prisoners' dilemma, where looking out for your individual self interest results in a far worse outcome for everyone, and it's one of the reasons why proletarian democracies tend toward single party dominance instead of multi-party chaos (even though this makes it easy for bougie media to paint them as "undemocratic").

  • Woly [any]
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    4 years ago

    I doubt that it's actually going to fail. It's going to pass the house no matter what, then the Senate gets to review it and make changes before they vote. That's where the actual decisions will get made, like whether these new additions stay in or whether the $15 minimum wage stays.

    This extra stuff is just members of the house throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      then the Senate gets to review it and make changes before they vote

      At the rate they're going, a 200-year-old Senator is going to die of an aneurysm before the bill hits the floor, and Mitch McConnell becomes Imperial Dictator straight into 2022.

  • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This doesn't mean they torpedoed the stimulus bill it means they'll jiggle around with what's exactly in it. At the end of the day they decided they're not allowed to go over $1.9 trillion. So anything more you put in has to come out of something else. All of this is just messing around at the margins.

    The end product is going to be $1.9 trillion of relief (most of which will go to the rich and ultimately written off their taxes) with $1400 checks for the plebs, just like the last couple bills.