I know we all hate the feds here, but the atf didn’t start the Waco fires. Denying reality to own the cops isn’t something that we should be doing. This and killdozer are like 2 of the things that pisses me off with the left trying to co-opt libertarian folk heros because pig bad

      • YungTheorist [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Dorner was fired for reporting brutality. He then made a manifesto about that, and took up asymmetric warfare against the LAPD

        • HarryLime [any]
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          4 years ago

          Dorner was basically going on a workplace rampage, and targeted the children of people who pissed him off.

            • HarryLime [any]
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              4 years ago

              a cop adjacent.

              An innocent woman, yes. And he fully intended to kill more.

              • YungTheorist [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Everyone who focuses on that fact ignores the fact that he was fighting to expose brutality and his treatment by the racist LAPD.

                • Swoosegoose [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  How does murdering an unrelated woman expose police brutality? Plenty of people expose police brutality without murdering people.

                • HarryLime [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  He was fighting for revenge like any workplace spree killer and used brutality as an excuse. If he wanted to expose police brutality, why didn't he just record his colleagues doing some? Why did he have to kill them and their family members?

                  Although Dorner is another case like Waco where the cops totally burned him to death where they could have taken him peacefully and fucking lied about it.

                  • YungTheorist [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    MFer had already been fired at that point. He got fired for trying to do that. Was he supposed to just find cops while out on the street and film them? People have been arrested, killed, or both for that.

                    • HarryLime [any]
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                      4 years ago

                      Then why didn't he join an anti-police brutality activist group? There are plenty of those around. There's nothing that can justify running around like some version of The Punisher that goes after cops and their kids. This entire line of defense is fucking idiotic.

            • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              a cop adjacent.

              Former cops daughter. How dare that piece of shit be birthed by a cops wife!

              • YungTheorist [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Her fiancé was a cop, too. Just a mall cop type. And he still killed cops. He isn’t a proletarian hero but treating him like the villain is wrong and plays into the hands of the Police Media

      • YungTheorist [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I feel like a lot of discourse here about him boils down to “yeah but he was not good either” and I feel like both siding a situation about a POC having an ill intentioned struggle against the cops doesn’t do much to service leftism