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  • MarxistJeb [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Does anyone else still fear the idea of death a great amount? Like it doesn't impact my decisions and there are things I would like to think I would die for, but I just have a hard time imagining being old and close to dying as anything but terrifying.

    Maybe I'll be more tired of life in 60 years, but without faith I find it hard to see myself accepting it in a meaningful way. My life hasn't been easy and I feel shitty frequently, but the concept of never existing again is just cosmically horrifying in its infinity.

    • scamboy [he/him,any]
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      4 years ago

      I mostly don't really fear dying, I just fear dying a painful death (e.g. torture). But sometimes I do fear dying.

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I simultaneously long for the eternal release and am terrified of it

    • Samsara [he/him,he/him]
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      Do you remember what it felt like before you were born? Did you object to it? My personal philosophy is that death is the natural state of things. We're here for a short while, so have fun and be good to each other.

      Without death, life has no meaning. Life is only beautiful because of death.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Nah, life is pretty beautiful on its own, and would be even more beautiful with a few thousand years to really enjoy things.

        Sure, you might get tired eventually, but there's an awful lot of things to see and do in the universe. And there's stuff coming out of the labs that will begin to give, maybe not us, but our grandchildren that chance once we've solved the climate crises and established global communism (such an easy job, I know).

        FALGSC means everyone lives as long as they want to. And being scared of death is a direct result of the scarcity caused by capitalism. We could have solved it already if we weren't giving Jeff Bezos a solid platinum learjet every day.

        • Samsara [he/him,he/him]
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          Counter point, imagine people from 1000 years ago still being alive. Imagine sharing the planet with actual slavers, colonists and war criminals. Hell I don't even think slavery would've been abolished if people were able to live a thousand years.

          • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Imagine sharing the planet with actual slavers, colonists and war criminals.

            we do

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            People are malleable, make the material conditions such that none of that matters anymore and they'll change. Some might take a century or two, but it'll happen. As for ossification, I think you'll find a lot of older people would be more progressive if they were active 20 year olds again who got outside and saw people and were not in constant low level pain.

            I'm happy to share a planet with former slavers, colonists and war criminals. I don't want them to be cadre, but I want them to have good, compassionate future lives. Obviously, in the early stages Reconciliation measures are needed, but in the long run I think things will be just fine.

            Give Columbus or Da Gama a spaceship and point them somewhere there aren't any lifelike radio signals. Give Hitler a paintbrush and a seat on the banks of the Danube. Give the founding fathers....I dunno, a debate club and tax-free status? They were weird dudes.

        • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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          4 years ago

          This is a really beautiful and weird and compelling look at that https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football

        • Samsara [he/him,he/him]
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          4 years ago

          npnp. Side note, Hindu/Buddhist/Jain philosophy is pretty good at alleviating existential dread.

          • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I know little-to-nothing about Hinduism, I know, basically, only about the Top Tier 'veganism' in Jainism, but I know some about Buddhism... and almost all of it, I love. But, like, in a non-judgemental, detached way hahaha ;)

            • Samsara [he/him,he/him]
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              They've all got similar concepts when it comes to death. The cycle of life and death (Samsara) is a chain holding you to this world, and a release from this cycle (Moksham/Nirvana), is what we're here to do. There are different schools of thought on how you achieve this release.

              I prefer it a whole lot more to the Abrahamic concept of yay you're dead welcome to heaven for following what the holy book said :):)

              • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Cycles make a whole lot more sense to me than 'there are infinite baby souls over here, then they move through the gauntlet of Earth to end up as either infinite eternally suffering souls, or infinite eternally blissful souls' 🤷‍♂️

    • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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      4 years ago

      I think its also a matter of knowing others aren't ready for it either. When you're young death is terrifying because there is so much you haven't yet said or done or seen, but when you get old everyone knows you have experienced most of what you ever could. It's sort of the same as being terrified a kid might die doing a safe task, but being at peace and spending time with an older person in pallative care.

    • Dear_Occupant [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I stopped fearing death when I got to the point in my life that I had more loved ones among the dead than among the living. I still fear it in the sense than I try to avoid actually dying and would like to put off the event for as long as possible, but it's stopped being the source of that awful variety of existential dread that keeps me from getting to sleep some nights. It's since occurred to me that a lot of that was just fear of being alone, and if there's one thing we can say about death, it's that it doesn't happen to just you.

      Still holding out hope that I can pull of an Enoch and get so fed up with this place I go on a walk one day and just vanish.

    • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Ehh. I don't have beliefs that my spirit will continue on in any unified way that maintains my identity after death, but I just don't fear it for some reason.

      Just yesterday, in fact, I was contemplating how glorious it would be to go out in a blaze in a socialist revolution. I would be happy to die on that battlefield.