https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210114-covid-19-how-effective-is-a-single-vaccine-dose

Sputnik V

The Sputnik V vaccine is named after the world's first artificial satellite, the iconic Soviet-era "Sputnik 1", which was launched into low Earth orbit in October 1957 – it burned up three months later when its batteries died. Its namesake was developed by the Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology in Moscow, Russia.

Any time Russia or the USSR are mentioned there needs to be some added slight in the text.

Is this meant to hint something about the vaccine? Or just about Russian manufacturing.

    • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Of course, having a satellite burn up after its intended use is expected, as most things that fall from orbit do.

      By slight, I mean they included it clearly to make a point of some Russian failure, even if in reality it wasn't.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I was thinking this was written by an old person who was still salty about the Soviets winning the space race, but it's like a 30 year old woman who seems to just hate non NATO countries and love veganism.

        • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Gulag for vegans who spend their time advocating against human rights like healthcare. Mocking another country that made a vaccine quicker than us, cheaper than us, more effective than us, and is supplying poorer countries across the world.

          I'm vegan btw

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Uh, sweaty, being vegan is all about personal freedom and my individual consumption choices. Get woke

      • Magjee [any]
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        4 years ago

        First country in space

        First animal in space

        First person in space

        First space station

        America: Only the moon counts!

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    And that small apparattus made the whole fucking "west" shat their pants.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The one good thing about America is when we don't cover up stuff like this. Advancing rocket technology involved lots of explosions, and it will involve many, many more, no use shying away from that fact.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    Sputnik V continues to be the best vaccine available, not unlike the Polio vaccine they invented that eventually became the global standard.

    • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      The study that came out had it only a few points lower in efficacy than Phizer and Moderna's but it's cheaper and transports better.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        Single shot. Doesn't use mRNA. Far less sever side effects. Cheaper.

        Whatever may be said about Putin's leadership, Russian medical science remains top tier.

        • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Wow it's single shot too? Doesn't the J&J one-shot vaccine have something like 66% efficacy lmao

          L's everywhere we look.

          edit: It's two doses actually, user was mistaken.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          It's not single shot and the fact that it isn't mRNA is a detriment. No vaccine has many severe side effects, and they're so infrequent that it's hard to figure out which one has less. The cheaper part is the best part about it. It's still a top tier vaccine but so far I think Moderna is on top given that they have already made a booster for the South Africa mutation.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The mRNA ones are still probably better because they should be easier to modify and should be better at coping with mutations.

  • theother2020 [comrade/them, she/her]
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    4 years ago

    The extraneous, incidental negative detail is definitely a thing

    I’ve been reminding Libs I work with how “everyone” made fun of the Sputnik vaccine back in July (replete with Putin poison jokes) but it’s legit. You can see them squint at the cognitive dissonance

    • ItGoesItGoes [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It has been a ride to see my lib father going from: "hahaha Russian vaccine poop" to "I prefer to inject the Russian or Chinese vaccines than the Western ones" lmao. I'm honestly surprised he was able to defeat his lib brain worms, even if it was just this time.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah it was pretty gross how they constantly tried to slight and discredit them, as if Russia doesn't have top notch medical research. My dad kept digging at it and talking about how he wouldn't trust it etc and I kept telling him it's probably gonna turn out fine and that the media created backlash against Chinese and Russian vaccines is a massive error, aaaaand this is exactly what happened. He's changed his mind now and he keeps hoping the EU will decide to buy the Russian vaccine.

  • panopticon [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Sputnik's battery was only supposed to last 3 weeks anyway, and they used its orbital decay to estimate the density of the upper atmosphere, so it was never intended to stay up there indefinitely... Meaning the satellite worked pretty much exactly as intended. So yeah, it's a smarmy remark about Russian manufacturing, real small bitch energy. But those details are in like the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page, so at least they did their research.

    • howdyoudoo [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      all of this is besides the point: BBC is using a logical fallacy here.

      But this fallacy hasn't been named yet. We need a name

      "The shoehorning in of a fact that is irrelevant to the point, in order to display a strong bias."

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    This article is a bit outdated, the efficacy of the Sputnik V vaccine has been verified by the Lancet in a peer reviewed study. Lmoa at the BBC being a terrible news source yet again

    • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Retroactively correct articles to provide accurate information? Haven't heard of her!

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    like it is fun because it is a mix of anti russian sentiment from right now and the anti soviet stuff from like decades ago americans just can't deal with russians like they just hate them so much

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      What Americans can't take is countries resisting US supremacy. Americans liked Russians during the Jeltsin regime when the Russian economy was being decided by political commissars from the US. But under Putin Russia became more independent from the evil empire so now they're back on the red scare anti-Russian racism.

    • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Russians and Russians alone are the reason half the country voted for Trump twice. And I'll never forgive the Russians for that.

      • Anna_KOC [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I've never trusted Russians, and I never will. I could never forgive them for the death of my boy. It seems to me our mission to escort the Chancellor of the Russian High Council to a peace summit is problematic at best. Spock says this could be an historic occasion, and I'd like to believe him, but how on earth can history get past people like me?

  • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    It's funny how easy it is for RT to be better than all Western state media simply by taking an anti-anglosphere stance

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Niel Armstrong was the first man to walk the moon. He never returned and later he died.

  • InnuendOwO [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    hang on, bbc, you mean you think "intentionally disposing of sputnik when done with it, so we dont cause kessler syndrome" is bad?

    the fuck

    "a bunch of random useless bullshit in orbit" is a big problem i-

    HOW IS THIS EVEN A SLIGHT AGAINST THE USSR BBC. EXPLAIN