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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff

The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • the_kid
    ·
    1 year ago

    China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi has told Israel’s Eli Cohen that Beijing is “deeply saddened” by the large number of civilian deaths in the escalating Israel-Hamas war.

    Yi, acknowledged that every country had a right to self-defence, but “they should abide by international humanitarian law and protect the safety of civilians,” China’s state media reported on Tuesday.

    Yi is due to visit the United States later this week.

    some-controversy

    • plov_mix [comrade/them]
      ·
      1 year ago

      When will anglophone news sources learn not to refer to Chinese persons by their given names lmao. It’s so flirtatiously endearing to refer to Wang Yi as Yi — or to Xi as Jinping ~~~~~

      • the_kid
        ·
        1 year ago

        is it more normal to use the family name, or are you supposed to say their whole name?

        • PointAndClique [they/them]
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          In this case, the masthead should use the same convention for Chinese names as they do for others. e.g. 'President Joe Biden' and 'President Biden' or 'Mr Biden' would be equivalent to 'President Xi Jinping' and 'President Xi' or 'Mr Xi' thereafter.

          In Chinese articles, President Xi would be called something like 'National Chairman Xi Jinping' and as Xi Jinping thereafter.

          In formal spoken Chinese, it is most common to use the family name + title, family name + Mr/Mrs/etc, or family name + relation to the speaker.

          So for e.g. the person with the name Li Xiaoning could be

          • Li laoshi (teacher Li)
          • Li nvshi (Ms Li) or
          • Li ayi (auntie Li)

          Generally though, given names are only used by friends, family or from a person of higher position to one lower. Teacher Li could address her student Wang Bingbing as Wang tongxue (pupil Wang) or Bingbing tongxue (pupil Bingbing). Wang Bingbing's friends may call her Bingbing.

          For people with two character names, they're often just said in full, even in informal situations, or the given name is reduplicated to soften it a little e.g. Huang Mo would be called Momo.

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
          ·
          1 year ago

          Generally, when reporting you use their last names, title + last name, or title + / first and last name.

          When speaking about figures you’re not intimate with, it’s usually less awkward when you refer to them with their last name unless their reputation involves first name basis, like calling Bernie Sanders “Bernie”

    • star_wraith [he/him]
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I get that China is going to do their own thing with foreign policy, but is it really too much to ask that China do something like “due to gross human rights violations, we are suspending all Chinese trade with Israel until a ceasefire is reached”? Weren’t they part of the bloc that put economic pressure on apartheid South Africa? I’m not asking them to give dongfengs to Hamas or anything. Is it really too much to ask that communist country try and do something here?

      • spectre [he/him]
        ·
        1 year ago

        They're not as communist as people on Hebear believe is part of what it comes down to

        • the_kid
          ·
          1 year ago

          clearly they value the business they do with Israel more than Palestinian lives, just the truth until they show otherwise

          • spectre [he/him]
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yep, they're not gonna be at the "kids table" for much longer and I want to start seeing some leadership on these issues in the next decade. They've already started that a bit recently which is great, far better than the West ofc

        • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
          ·
          1 year ago

          Nah just look at the Pelosi/Taiwan incident again, they even mobilized their two carriers, they made a big deal about red lines and the US just called the bluff. Its not that they're not commited to communism as much as too much restraint and a naive idea that they'll win out in the long run. Things like climate change destroying the planet or US imperialism making blocs like BRICS irrelevant if China doesn't stand up to defend it just doesn't compute to them.

          I'd almost say this is just rookie shit but who am I to lecture they should know from the mistakes of the USSR, it just seems they learned all the wrong lessons. The USSR was never this powerful in comparison.

          • Trudge [Comrade]@lemmygrad.ml
            ·
            1 year ago

            China's been very consistent and clear about its stance regarding foreign affairs - no foreign interference. China acts when Taiwan's on the line since it considers Taiwan to be internal affairs, and it doesn't take an active stance when it comes to Israel-Hamas since they haven't been asked to mediate on the matter by both parties. Same for Ukraine-Russia. They did mediate for Iran-Saudi Arabia since it was asked for by both sides.

            I don't like China's lack of action either, but it is a consistent stance and I don't see them changing it even when they become the number 1 superpower in a decade or two.

          • zephyreks [none/use name]
            ·
            1 year ago

            We're seeing the unwinding of the US-centric world in real time. I don't think China is worried about US imperialism so much as it is worried about a hot war with the US. Before globalization collapses completely, China needs to build up trade partners and supply chains. Unfortunately for Palestine, Chinese economic independence is a higher priority and China's reputation has never been one that would require an immediate response.

            Also, I'm fairly sure China has some worries about being seen as hypocritical vis-a-vis Taiwan and the autonomous regions, particularly in the context of China using national security as the justification for the crackdown in Xinjiang.

      • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]
        ·
        1 year ago

        Lol, China does a ton of business with Israel, I think they're the second largest buyer of military equipment produced by Israel

        • star_wraith [he/him]
          ·
          1 year ago

          Right, they could even just embargo military purchases. I don’t think that would create too many problems with the US (certainly not more than, say, selling weapons to Russia) and would probably be somewhat effective in impacting Israel. China could do things, and they choose not to.

      • wantToViewEmojis
        ·
        1 year ago

        should china blockade america or not, the entirety of the eu or not. You cannot stop israel until you stop those countries. Closing trade to israel on its own is a completely empty gesture.

        • CyborgMarx [any, any]
          ·
          1 year ago

          They should do the empty gesture, if nothing but to cause legal headaches for western companies

        • ilyenkov [she/her, they/them]
          ·
          1 year ago

          should china blockade america or not, the entirety of the eu or not.

          Yes, they should. They grew their productive forces. They tricked the west into playing to relocate all their factories there. They successfully executed Deng's strategy (Deng was a smart guy and a real Marxist). Now is the time to cash in. They have sufficient productive forces now, they have the manufacturing advantage. Push the fucking button now or renounce Marxism. They need to stop being libs on this