You don't think a pig or a cow have the concept of freedom? And the cow doesn't resist the killing?
You say whales suffer from being enclosed but maintain a cow doesn't if it is forcibly impregnated once a year, having its child taken from it days after birth, milked for ten months until dry? The strain that puts on its body, that isn't suffering? Would taking a whale's child away from it cause suffering?
If you can watch the standardized process by which these products are made, and then conclude there is no suffering, please do. Watching Dominion was a big part of convincing me of the things I believe now and didn't before.
Here's the part specific to Cows -- https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?t=3183
You haven't yet defined why cattle are not slaves, you said it was their inability to conceive of freedom, their inability to suffer, but you seem to now concede those.
If it's funny to you that the two might be compared, ask why. It's definitely not something traditional society discusses, so maybe that's why it's so foreign of a concept to you.
So wage slaves, who do work of their own volition, are more valid slaves than other sentient beings kept in cages and exploited for their reproductive systems and eventually, flesh? If slavery is not defined by suffering, what is it defined by, the absence of free will?
cows love when people take away their children. Cows love being killed. Cows love being forcibly impregnated and milked everyday, despite common infections of the udders. Just because you don't care doesn't mean they don't
so you don't mind if I kill them for food?
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ok lemme sell my five year old for money if that makes you more comfortable
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What distinguishes them, in your definition?
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You don't think a pig or a cow have the concept of freedom? And the cow doesn't resist the killing?
You say whales suffer from being enclosed but maintain a cow doesn't if it is forcibly impregnated once a year, having its child taken from it days after birth, milked for ten months until dry? The strain that puts on its body, that isn't suffering? Would taking a whale's child away from it cause suffering?
If you can watch the standardized process by which these products are made, and then conclude there is no suffering, please do. Watching Dominion was a big part of convincing me of the things I believe now and didn't before.
Here's the part specific to Cows -- https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?t=3183
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You haven't yet defined why cattle are not slaves, you said it was their inability to conceive of freedom, their inability to suffer, but you seem to now concede those.
If it's funny to you that the two might be compared, ask why. It's definitely not something traditional society discusses, so maybe that's why it's so foreign of a concept to you.
So wage slaves, who do work of their own volition, are more valid slaves than other sentient beings kept in cages and exploited for their reproductive systems and eventually, flesh? If slavery is not defined by suffering, what is it defined by, the absence of free will?
Yes, this is correct. Continue purchasing meat. My stock portfolio thanks you.
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cows love when people take away their children. Cows love being killed. Cows love being forcibly impregnated and milked everyday, despite common infections of the udders. Just because you don't care doesn't mean they don't
livestock is not like children, because I say they're different
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