This was fun last time, leggo again

I'll start with: libertarians have solid takes ~40-50% of the time and many of them just need to be pushed a step further in their thinking to turn against capitalist oppression along with state oppression. The libright-to-leftist pipeline is stronger than most seem to think it is.

  • wenox [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    world will probably be unhabitable before we get to any sort of real left society

    • MAGAY [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The only thing that could make Earth totally uninhabitable to humans is nuclear Armageddon or asteroid impact. Global warming or whatever else can only at worst cause the breakdown of modern civilization. Nbd

      • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I mean sure, 7 billion people could die and there would still be plenty of humans left. Still sounds like a terrible time

      • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Idk dude, crop failure and the degradation of energy infrastructure to create and deliver foodstuffs is very fucking perilous. Like the only human society that could exist past something like that until the earth normalizes would be an underground vault like in Fallout.

        • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Nah, because the reality is places like Canada and Russia will suddenly become enormous swathes of rather productive farmland. The Earth has been much hotter in the past, and the planet even having permanent ice caps is a relative rarity.

          The problem is going to be the enormous change in what areas are habitable and productive and the creation of billions of climate refugees.

            • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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              Those fossil fuels we're burning now all used to be gases in the atmosphere. In the Cretaceous, the temperature was 10 degrees Celsius hotter than today. There was probably some snow in the winter, but there was no permanent ice anywhere on the planet, including the poles and mountain peaks. Take a look at the wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous#Climate

              Human-induced climate change is going to be absolutely disastrous for the people of the world today. We need to be taking dramatic, global action and completely restructuring society. But it certainly won't make the planet uninhabitable and I very, very seriously doubt it will cause human extinction.

          • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            I agree, it does really suck how much of the Earth's land mass isnt towards the poles. Also that Australia is already a desert. Earth's geography just sucks is that a hot enough take?

    • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Look at india. Lots of places there look like the kinda post global warming wasteland america will turn into. Yeah, we will all die, but somebody will do just fine. In the perfect black pill world the goal is to make sure whoever ends up left has a copy of the manifesto in a language they can read you know? It likely won't be that bad, just really really bad.