Does anyone know more? This looks tasty.
The Indochinese/Vietnamese Communist Party actually considered inter-party fucking to be incest. Party members called each other "brother" and "sister" not just as a sign of respect but also to forge sibling-like egalitarian bonds. Other types of relationships in Vietnam were very hierarchical, including husband-wife back then. Sleeping with your fellow party members was definitely as frowned upon as incest and could get you in serious trouble if you were in a leadership position.
In one story I read, an underground local city committee discovered their regional commander had pressured one of female guerillas into sleeping with him, so the other members of the city committee found their commander and slit his throat. Normally this would have had them killed themselves but when the city committee explained the situation the party agreed that the commander had indeed committed the crime of incest so his killers were forgiven.
Point of this: DSA needs to introduce the death penalty for sex pests in their ranks.
Point of this: DSA needs to introduce the death penalty for sex pests in their ranks.
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Seems you wish that FBI agent Mark Kennedy and alike the death (for raping and gaslighting 19 year olds for years, having kids with them when he was 30 and married and had kids).
lol why follow lifeafterdsa when you can cut out the middle man and just follow @fbi directly?
they always post dumb shit without knowing whats going on. there was some shit but it was handled pretty quickly and doesnt seem like a big deal, the people got expelled.
https://i.imgur.com/jceEdrG.png
https://twitter.com/NewSovietPoster/status/1384962253498236929?s=20
I'm like 70 percent sure lifeafterdsa also in fact got kicked out of their dsa chapter for harassment.
I think instinctual distrust of institutions does American brains no favor.
Going to build a mass movement of the proletariat just as soon as I can find other proles I'm not instinctually terrified by or disgusted with, brb.
I am only joining a mass movement if I get to become the sole focus and charismatic speaker, and die a martyr so I can play out my suicidal ideations in a "healthy" way.
Like a lot of things, a little bit is healthy, but a lot is terminal. It's great that people are skeptical enough of DSA leaders to identify and root out sexual misconduct. It becomes a liability, though, when people lose sight of the fact that sexual misconduct is basically guaranteed in certain types and sizes of organizations, and that the DSA seems to handle it much better than comparable organizations. Compare this to Democrats' handling of Tara Reade, for instance.
I'm gonna do a whataboutism and say that the DSA is not an organization uniquely rife with abusers. I won't claim to prescribe what features of an organization make it resistant to abusers, but there are plenty of groups that are more radical, further left, more centralist or horizontalist, which have failed to maintain a basic standard of safety and protection for vulnerable members.
Making fun of the DSA is often quite funny tho
Making fun of the
DSADemocrat Party is often quite funny thoFixed it for ya
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It seems that even people who weren't in the EC did step down so that new elections could be held and trust could be restored within the chapter. I don't know what happened and don't feel the need to research (nor would I find it sensible if I would necessarily find what happened online), however that people got excluded and there are new elections and there seems to be a working national procedure is more than what could be said with some organizations I was involved in.
A mainstream government party a friend of mine was associated with for example had an sexual abusive official who also was a stalker who did get shielded by the local, the state level and the federal level blocked any channel to deal with it. So I for one applaud every structure in which the abuser isn't shielded in the end - even if stuff could still be better.
lol why follow lifeafterdsa when you can cut out the middle man and just follow @fbi directly?
Because "DSA sucks, its just a bunch of Democrats and we hate Democrats" is way more fun to say than "I uncritically consumer gossip on Twitter when developing my political views".
love to make a “life after dsa” account and spend the next 3 years spreading nonstop unsubstantiated rumors about dsa and only talking about random dsa drama online every day
Yeah, sometimes people treat DSA like a weird social club. I went to a DSA book club once where we were supposed to discuss state and revolution. Except that one of the DSA political education committee members just kept bringing up polycules. Like idk man, i'm just trying to figure out what Lenin was saying.
Stopping sexual harassment is a basic administrative duty. It's an issue in almost every org.
Pretty sure sexual harassment was/is such a problem in the DSA they actually put all the related rules and procedures on separate sheet from the rest of the bylaws when you join, just to be sure you don't miss it. Stopping sexual harassment from happening to your members is definitely part of leadership.
If it's not in the bylaws it needs to be. I'm talking about what needs to happen for a functioning movement, not what the DSA is already doing.
If you want to form a Volcel Praetorian Guard and start policing meetings, give it a shot.
I'll be curious to hear how it works out.
Stopping sexual harassment is literally the same as enforcing volcel by force
Uhhhhh
managing chapter membership expulsions is not the job of rank and file members.
Motioning for it is.
i don’t think it’s unreasonable (even with my low opinion of them now) to expect them to be able to act quickly and decisively on people showing up to events to creep on and harass people
What authority do you think these people have that you don't? Who is supposed to be the bouncer when you're at an open-door volunteer event organized and hosted by volunteers for the purpose of increasing volunteer activity?
are you suggesting that cornering women and asking them whether they are wearing a bra is “eye-contact between members”?
I'm suggesting that the guy who posted a "Please come to my DSA meeting" flyer on a street light pole is not your personal bodyguard.
So I guess a key difference between DemSocs and DemCents is the lack of a volcel NKVD?
I'm officially announcing the formation of the DSA Anti-Sex Caucus to combat all forms of horniness within the organization. Sex pests, perverts, and predators have plagued this organization for too long and it is time we rooted them out. Join with me comrades, to impose celibacy on the largest socialist organization in the USA!
I hate the volcel bit with a passion that is very intense but I'm forced to agree here
Don't worry comrade, only the vanguard will be volcel. We will impose celibacy on the rest of the organization with an iron fist.
You should use that line when you you're tying some coomer to a tree on a winter night
Why not form a bigger polycule and simply devour the existing hegemonic polycule?
I'm trying to get more info from a few people in it but they're all blue collar third-shift workers and it's 2215 so they're all mega busy, but I did get that "the gist" is true but apparently missing some key points.
Oh, good. I'm middle-aged and felt like a dinosaur when I saw polycule: Is polyamory passé?
A polycule is a group of people in a relationship with each other. Polyamorous people can do that but many of them don't.
DSA getting it wet instead of getting it done
A shame really
Though, NGL, eight person polycule could drown a fellow in it
"Hey baby, I'm sure you've heard of Cincy-style chili, but have you ever tried a Cincy-style DSA meeting?"
An aside but Cincy style chili is absolute garbage, don't know why it has a reputation for being good. So is Graeter's (sp?) ice cream.
I've had skyline chili the one time I flew into Cincy on my way to Louisville to get shitfaced in the infield at the Kentucky Derby. Wasn't all that great. Never had Graeter's.
I think the thing with Graeter's is that it's how ice cream actually tasted like 100 years ago. Which is interesting sure, but doesn't necessarily make for good ice cream.
Talking about DSA drama to normies is basically the "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?" meme.
