Elder Scrolls is literally the least "fash" fantasy out there. Yes, I am a huge fucking nerd, no I am not white, I'll see you in the comments mother fucker, I KNOW THE LORE! FIGHT ME!

  • CrookedSerpent [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    CHIM, is In my humble, conjecture based option, is kirkbride's way of synthesizing eastern and western philosophy. To understand you are nothing and to believe that you are everything. To know that you are a personality construct in an uncaring god-head, while also having the ego to believe your identity is worth asserting. To see the wheel on its side and see the tower and to see the tower spells "I". To hold these two contradictory beliefs is to achieve CHIM. Comprehension of the godhead without ego is to zero-sum (Kagranak), ego all encompasing is to be a Sharmat, a false dreamer (DagothUr). Hope that clears it up! Make sure to buy Skyrim !

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      3 years ago

      Thats really cool but how does this make people be able to bend reality, is it a pure force of ego and will that is able to bend the dream once you fully grasp your place in it?

      • CrookedSerpent [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah basically. Once you realize, once you know, that you are in a dream, in real life, you wake up (zero sum), but if you somehow maintain your dream identity with this knowledge you become a lucid dreamer in a sense.

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          So all of Elder Scrolls is a dream? Does that mean Tiber Septum and the Dwemer 'woke up'?

          Where do people go when they achieve zero-sum? Do they just become a part of the godhead or do they exist as their own gods outside of the godhead?

          • Esoteir [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            tiber septum basically became a god, and the dwemer accidentally became the skin of the giant robot that tiber septum used to become god (because dwarf elon musk played the wrong melody on a sick ass god bone instrument)

            it's implied they cease to exist as a person when they zero-cum, since it's basically "wait, im just a freakin construct in a dream, i don't exis--"

            CHIM is different bc its like "not real? i think therefore i am my dudes. if this is a dream that means i can shoot poo poo lasers out of my third eye heheheheh"

            its also implied that elder scrolls exists in an endless chain of dreamers creating universes and those universes creating dreamers (godheads) that make their own universe in their dream and so on

            in semi-lore some dude marries vivec and has like dream sex with her and they birth the next godhead