Via a law announced Tuesday, Venezuela will create a new province or state in the disputed territory, having already appointed a single provisional authority: Major-General Alexis Rodríguez Cabello
This is good right? Venezuela is p cool and them taking another slice of pie good no? We already have them under every sanction. This is just vote of no confidence for US hard power
The Communist Party of Venezuela was pretty critical of Maduro in their statement: https://prensapcv.wordpress.com/2023/11/28/video-pronunciamiento-del-comite-central-del-pcv-ante-el-referendo-consultivo-sobre-el-territorio-esequibo
Neither option is consulting the indigenous people therein, Guyana because their opinions would obstruct the exploitation of oil, Venezuela bc they can’t survey ppl who aren’t Venezuelan (and if they take the land, they won’t because it would obstruct the exploitation of oil). Live in reality, Guyana keeping the land puts their indigenous people through the same story we’ve seen all over Latin America for decades: company comes in, oil goes out, rivers and land are polluted for generations. It’s just a choice of PDVSA vs Exxon
This doesn't exactly leave me supporting Venezuela.
Living in a war zone sucks even if one side winning would improve your life after. And here you're saying at best things would be only slightly better with Venezuela controlling the land. If Venezuela was doing this to support a homegrown leftist movement fighting Exxon I'd feel a lot different but to my knowledge one doesn't exist.
oh no, america was totally THIS close to stopping their sanctions, invasions and encirclements of venezuela, but then evil despotic maduro decided to alienate the poor little americans by reacting to their takeover of a disputed territory through one of their puppet states...
Any reason it's not imperialism to invade a neighboring country to take their natural resources by force to benefit your country or is it literally "it's not imperialism when a country I like does it"
imperialism is not "when a country violates a border", it's the highest stage of capitalism
and it isn't even guyana's territory under international law anyway, if you're going to call this an "invasion" you should also call guyana using the ICJ to unilaterally win the dispute as stealing
The country of Guyana has less of a connection to Guyana than Venezuala?
Is there any reason this exact same argument couldn't be used as justification for America to invade Alberta? It's largely undeveloped tundra with no real connection to Canada.
Like if you just want to say "it's good because it's a socialist country doing imperialism" fine I guess but seems like the dick slapping that's going to come as a result of that is pretty predictable and easily avoided.
There's been many invasions which have had minimal bloodshed, some tanks and infantry here and without a fight suddenly this land's annexed; if the US isn't willing to defend it's puppet then who cares. Clearly it would be if this was all over the news like it would normally be, but no, it's not all over the news, so the US is by all likelihood not going to do anything because it's already bogged down enough. It's not good or bad, this is simply just political maneuvering and the culmination of a history I will admit I don't and you clearly don't understand. Testing every global south liberation project for purity is meaningless and unhelpful, and showing your whole ass by equivocating nearly a hundred years of American sponsored global terror with what appears to be a bloodless landgrab does nothing except show you don't trust nor understand those who are in global south liberation projects.
I don't know if it's good or bad, but I know me caring won't matter, and I understand that socialist projects aren't perfect in the real world.
Think about Poland. The ussr invaded it so thr nazis wouldn't take it. In his historical.moment the USA is thr 4th Reich so keeping any territory out of there sphere of influence seems like a good idea to me. I don't actually know about the situation but that is my gut reaction.
This is good right? Venezuela is p cool and them taking another slice of pie good no? We already have them under every sanction. This is just vote of no confidence for US hard power
The Communist Party of Venezuela was pretty critical of Maduro in their statement: https://prensapcv.wordpress.com/2023/11/28/video-pronunciamiento-del-comite-central-del-pcv-ante-el-referendo-consultivo-sobre-el-territorio-esequibo
There's people living on that slice of the pie and I think they should get a say in this.
Idk is there like some militant Chavismo movement in Guyana that actually support joining Venezuela? Cuz I haven't heard it it.
Neither option is consulting the indigenous people therein, Guyana because their opinions would obstruct the exploitation of oil, Venezuela bc they can’t survey ppl who aren’t Venezuelan (and if they take the land, they won’t because it would obstruct the exploitation of oil). Live in reality, Guyana keeping the land puts their indigenous people through the same story we’ve seen all over Latin America for decades: company comes in, oil goes out, rivers and land are polluted for generations. It’s just a choice of PDVSA vs Exxon
This doesn't exactly leave me supporting Venezuela.
Living in a war zone sucks even if one side winning would improve your life after. And here you're saying at best things would be only slightly better with Venezuela controlling the land. If Venezuela was doing this to support a homegrown leftist movement fighting Exxon I'd feel a lot different but to my knowledge one doesn't exist.
Wasn’t intended that way, just laying out the situation
There was a native uprising that was accused of being funded by Venezuela.
Not familiar with that but I'd be curious to learn more
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It’s not good and the US was just starting to relieve sanctions. Maduro just wants that oil in a biodiversity country. It sucks
It’s oil in the ocean. They want the water rights. If they don’t take it, Exxon Mobil will. That also sucks
Awesome, more offshore drilling. Can’t wait for a spill.They can barely maintain their own oil infrastructure.
Exxon is going to do that offshore drilling -- letting them have it doesn't solve the offshore drilling problem.
The us was going to do nothing. Don't expect wolves to act like sheep.
oh no, america was totally THIS close to stopping their sanctions, invasions and encirclements of venezuela, but then evil despotic maduro decided to alienate the poor little americans by reacting to their takeover of a disputed territory through one of their puppet states...
Why is imperialism good when Venezuela does it?
Is Guyana like some fascists puppet state pr something, weird to see people acting like them getting invaded for oil is fine.
It's not imperialism
Yes, they are a puppet state of America
Any reason it's not imperialism to invade a neighboring country to take their natural resources by force to benefit your country or is it literally "it's not imperialism when a country I like does it"
imperialism is not "when a country violates a border", it's the highest stage of capitalism
and it isn't even guyana's territory under international law anyway, if you're going to call this an "invasion" you should also call guyana using the ICJ to unilaterally win the dispute as stealing
Guyana just gave their natural resources away to Exxon, in my understanding not to the benefit of its people
Guyana's an Exxon colony and this territory is largely undeveloped jungle with very little connection to Guyana
The country of Guyana has less of a connection to Guyana than Venezuala?
Is there any reason this exact same argument couldn't be used as justification for America to invade Alberta? It's largely undeveloped tundra with no real connection to Canada.
Like if you just want to say "it's good because it's a socialist country doing imperialism" fine I guess but seems like the dick slapping that's going to come as a result of that is pretty predictable and easily avoided.
There's been many invasions which have had minimal bloodshed, some tanks and infantry here and without a fight suddenly this land's annexed; if the US isn't willing to defend it's puppet then who cares. Clearly it would be if this was all over the news like it would normally be, but no, it's not all over the news, so the US is by all likelihood not going to do anything because it's already bogged down enough. It's not good or bad, this is simply just political maneuvering and the culmination of a history I will admit I don't and you clearly don't understand. Testing every global south liberation project for purity is meaningless and unhelpful, and showing your whole ass by equivocating nearly a hundred years of American sponsored global terror with what appears to be a bloodless landgrab does nothing except show you don't trust nor understand those who are in global south liberation projects.
I don't know if it's good or bad, but I know me caring won't matter, and I understand that socialist projects aren't perfect in the real world.
Invasions are never good, only very rarely necessary like liberating nazi Germany
Think about Poland. The ussr invaded it so thr nazis wouldn't take it. In his historical.moment the USA is thr 4th Reich so keeping any territory out of there sphere of influence seems like a good idea to me. I don't actually know about the situation but that is my gut reaction.