suck my fucking cock with this shit. did they get hospitalized? that’s a minuscule amount for the people that have gotten vaccinated anyway. you fucking reptiles want us to wear masks in the gym again. blow me https://t.co/bp9ayqiHh0— Anor Londo gentrifier (@ByYourLogic) July 30, 2021
What the fuck is with people and the gym? Exercise at home, you don't need equipment you bougie fuck. Oooh boo hoo I need to wear a mask in a global fucking pandemic.
Sorry Felix, I think you're a funny dude but I hope you're being ironic because this is a bad take.
Delta spreading so fast will kill off the unvaxxed idiots or give those who survive temporary immunity just like the vaccine. Fuck em.
The time for worrying about this shit is over.
Fuck the unvaxxed.
Kids die of the flu at a higher rate than covid.
Vaccine eligible people who can’t get it because of some crazy disease or whatever had the same problems with the flu before covid.
There’s no group left that still needs the protection of all of society changing how it operates. (Except the victims of capitalism, we still need to overthrow that.)
1 Those people had the same problem before covid. Covid is not the only airborne disease in the world. Did you wear a mask for them then? Oh? why not, you horrible murderer?
2 Whether vaccinated people wear masks at the gym will not be the factor that determines whether another mutation emerges.
3 I’m not against indoor masks at places that are not the gym, where you are working out and breathing hard. Essential places like grocery stores should require them be worn by everyone, but OPTIONAL indoor dishes such as bars restaurants or gyms should not require them. If you have special needs don’t go to those places, SAME AS BEFORE COVID.
4 Everyone jumps to thinking people are anti-mask in general just because it’s obvious that it’s stupid in a gym setting. Grow up.
5 Vaccinated people do not get seriously ill. Did you used to wear a mask before covid because of the cold or flu? If no then you have no ground to stand on.
You think that you will get to be immune or opt out of our great mass extinction? Think again!
Lots of people have become compromised in some way since covid started. You're being super heartless.
My dad died in all this shit. His cancer was not severe before covid, but it became severe during covid. He would have been exactly one of the people you're saying you don't give a shit about right now.
He is dead because of all this shit. Of course he was on his way out anyway, but I could have had more time with him if circumstances were better. People refusing to care about others is exactly why he died earlier than he should have, because there was no oxygen available, because covid patients had used it all.
It's not just covid people you're affecting. There is a huge knock on effect in the resources drained from the system that goes to literally EVERY single other life in need of saving and care.
Please, really think this over. We deserved more time with him and it was stolen from us by a completely useless covid response that caused knock on effects for people entirely unrelated to covid. He absolutely wouldn't have gone when he did if oxygen were available that night, but it wasn't.
I'm sharing a personal experience about a person affected by covid who died not because he caught covid but because infections of other people affects the healthcare that can be provided to ALL people in urgent care. The point isn't to emotionally manipulate, it just happens to be what I've actually experienced first hand. You're acting like healthcare is an infinite resource and that completely unrelated people don't get affected if thousands of covid patients are in the system, that's simply not the case, the more people that are in the system the worse the system gets for everyone due to resource drain.
Did you used to wear a mask before covid because of the cold or flu?
You keep using this boomer line about covid being just like the flu. The flu kills an average of ~36,000 people in the US per year. In the last year, covid has killed ~460,000 people in the US. That's with ongoing vaccine rollout for the majority of that period. Yeah, people change their fucking behaviors when we go from dealing with the flu, to what is effectively more than a dozen simultaneous flu seasons.
You're pointing to the fact that people weren't careful around medically vulnerable people before to justify that when they are now facing a far more dire situation we shouldn't care if they die.
post what I wrote in context next time instead of trying to create a strawman to virtue signal against. it's pathetic.
I wrote that in the context of replying to this: "also fun stuff today like that article re: an outbreak in Massachusetts had 75% of cases involving vaccinated individuals. Yeah, wow, you’re less likely to die, and probably won’t be severely crippled, enjoy your lifelong cough- hope the next wave of SuperCovid doesn’t finish the job!"
the flu killed people before covid but no one wore masks for that. then came covid and it killed 10x the people as the flu, so people wore masks. now vaccinated people have lowered their risk of dying of Covid back to flu-like levels or less thanks to the vaccine. so they're taking off the masks. this is completely different than a bommer anti-mask argument that conflated the flu with covid in the context of no vaccine being available. but you just want to create a strawman to virtue signal against. why is it? why is making yourself feel righteous so important to you that you'd mis-represent my arguments? stop being a :LIB:
I replied directly to your comment, the context is right there for anyone to see.
If masks only protected the wearer, I wouldn't care if vaccinated people wore them. But we know that with the delta variant, and the effects of the vaccine wearing down over time, vaccinated people are going to be an increasing part of keeping the virus spreading through the population.
People who can't get vaccines are still in as much danger if they catch covid as they were before the vaccine. If vaccinated people stop caring about them because they personally are protected from consequences that makes them assholes.
1 Those people had the same problem before covid. Covid is not the only airborne disease in the world. Did you wear a mask for them then? Oh? why not, you horrible murderer?
You are pushing for acceptance of vulnerable people dying preventable deaths, because vulnerable people have died preventable deaths in the past. I have a problem with that. I keep rereading your comments for more 'context', but nothing changes the apparent message here. If you think that's wrong, maybe rethink what you wrote.
I'm done with this conversation. I've already said everything I'm choosing to say.
This line of reasoning will result in more more new strains that will not be affected by the vaccine. This will put us back at square one again or maybe even worse because who knows what the new strains will be like. You're risking mountains of corpses because you don't like wearing a bit of fabric, don't be like this.
that's 19% of the 60% of vaccinated people who get breakthrough cases. starts to be a small number. and "long covid" can mean so many different things. from the mundane to the crippling. i don't know a ton about long covid but I think the number of vaccinated people who end up with severe long covid is going to be similar to the number of people who end up with long term problems from getting the flu. I guess we shall see!
I think I’m particularly sensitive to not taking risks as a healthy, double vaxxed friend of mine in his 30s ended up in the ICU with Delta. He’s doing better now, albeit still exhausted a month after being discharged. I know very well that he’s an extreme outlier, but it was still scary and heightened the risk for me, perhaps unreasonably so.
Personally I don’t have a problem maintaining NPIs like masks and distancing as long as possible, to reduce the reproduction (and hence mutation) rate to increase the chances of a lasting return to safety. Sadly, I think it’s going to be moot discussion regardless of what the CDC recommends now though, Delta is going to do what it’s going to do, both in terms of direct harm and new variants.
Way to be the reddit bro and respond to the person telling you to piss off, and not the person giving you a 5 point argument as to why you should piss off
Way to be the extremely online person who comments this 5 minutes after the response. Log off loser. What could be more reddit bro than that??? the reply you are whining about is right here sweaty: https://hexbear.net/post/129554/comment/1496837
The hell is wrong with you? You're being asked to wear a mask for a bit longer and are responding like every maga brained moron that screamed about how they couldn't get a haircut.
I have close friends that are immuno-compromised. Another one is going through chemo in the midst of all this. So they deserve death, according to you? And it's virute signaling to press people to do a bit more then the bare fucking minimum?
Hexbear anti mask protest outside the local gym and it's fine cause it's not Applebee's cause what makes you a chud boomer or a based gen z is your consumption choices and not whether you're willing to kill people for your pathetic convenience.
It is, unfortunately, a complicated topic. The largest unvaccinated group in the US are the uninsured, with 52% having received no doses. People without insurance literally do not believe it’s free (can you blame them? They’re also partly right that plenty of health businesses will try and charge them in some capacity)
The second least vaccinated group are Republicans at 48% having received no doses.
There are large societal forces at work here. What it means, I dunno. But I do think it’s worth considering. Much of this is largely a foregone conclusion at this point. I agree that “fuck some people” is correct, I’m just not sure that “the unvaccinated” as a whole should be that group.
It’s been a little hard on my mental health not being able to get into the gym and do my mma stuff. But ya know, I just haven’t been doing it because it’s obviously not safe
Ah, I get it. I guess there are some solid reasons to wanting to be in a gym. I still think you should have to wear a mask or have some thing in place to keep everyone safe though.
Personally I don't have motivation at home. Also it's unbearably hot outside so I can't run.
Plus my gym is ran by my school and membership is included. Also I get a bonus if I swipe in a set number of times.
And it's a relatively small town so when I go after hours it's just me so I don't need to mask up or else I probably wouldn't go because masking up while working out is a new level of hell I'm not willing to deal with.
You must've misread my comment. I agree with you. If there were people in my gym and I had to mask up I would not go. I would figure out how to work from home.
Sorry if a worldwide pandemic with a DLC upgrade is an inconvenience.
How is Felix bougie? He makes like $75k/year in a partnership, not exactly a ton of money. My cousin is a linesman who makes quite a bit more, is he bad because he makes money?
As far as his take goes, it’s astounding to me that anyone cares
First they got rid of the downvote button, then they added gender tags, then they change the name of the website from chapo.chat to hexbear in a cynical marketing ploy. Now this site is literally just for trans people and not at all for real leftist politics unless you consider the constant bitching about literal whos misgendering someone on twitter. Also the hypocrisy, the blm protesters didn't wear masks, you support feds when it comes to the January 6th protestors, you people know nothing about Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, or China yet you all support them unconditionally because they claim to be communist or were. You people would try to kill me if you had power, you want me to agree with you or are you just gonna post a pig's anus like whenever a troublesome thought goes into your head.
You gonna do communism on one website? What have any of you fuckers done for workers? I'm in a union and I hate it they take money out of my paycheck for no benefit to me, I joined the dsa but left when I realized they cared more about twitter bullshit than raising the minimum wage.
There’s 6 of them and they fund a lot of projects, so they all make about $75k/year. High-level financial breakdowns have been published in the past. They’re not just sitting at home jerking off all day, there are expenses to any business
For their projects, you can look up the political projects they fund just as a start, it’s not insignificant. Social projects are harder to find, but again at least Felix or Chris is posting one about every month. They’ve got several media projects ongoing now, and all of their projects have costs.
I’m not trawling through Twitter to find them, but Felix has posted and talked about their financial details. I’m choosing to believe them because they don’t have a good reason to lie and they’ve got plenty of reason to not lie, given that there’s still plenty of people raking them over the coals even with this stuff.
so you can't point me to anything, expect me to take your word for it that they somehow drain the vast majority of their income into nebulous "projects", and that i should trust what they say about their finances when they aren't even working class
yeah, i'm not going to trust the word of some rich dickheads tbh
Thanks for stating the obvious. I know covid is bad, I’m saying I don’t know how anyone can care what some guy they’ve never met says about it when there are no good options anyway. There’s a lot of guys out there you can imagine when you’re mad at your phone, you’ll be busy.
$75k a year is a fuckton of money lmao.
In Brooklyn it’s enough to live mildly comfortably until you need a major car repair, or have a kid, or have a chronic illness. Is that what bougie means now?
What the fuck is with people and the gym? Exercise at home, you don't need equipment you bougie fuck. Oooh boo hoo I need to wear a mask in a global fucking pandemic.
Sorry Felix, I think you're a funny dude but I hope you're being ironic because this is a bad take.
Unless he's really commiting to the bit, his replies to people tweeting at him doesn't really make it seem that way.
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Him and felix are right though.
Vaxed people don’t get very sick.
Delta spreading so fast will kill off the unvaxxed idiots or give those who survive temporary immunity just like the vaccine. Fuck em.
The time for worrying about this shit is over.
Fuck the unvaxxed.
Kids die of the flu at a higher rate than covid.
Vaccine eligible people who can’t get it because of some crazy disease or whatever had the same problems with the flu before covid.
There’s no group left that still needs the protection of all of society changing how it operates. (Except the victims of capitalism, we still need to overthrow that.)
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1 Those people had the same problem before covid. Covid is not the only airborne disease in the world. Did you wear a mask for them then? Oh? why not, you horrible murderer?
2 Whether vaccinated people wear masks at the gym will not be the factor that determines whether another mutation emerges.
3 I’m not against indoor masks at places that are not the gym, where you are working out and breathing hard. Essential places like grocery stores should require them be worn by everyone, but OPTIONAL indoor dishes such as bars restaurants or gyms should not require them. If you have special needs don’t go to those places, SAME AS BEFORE COVID.
4 Everyone jumps to thinking people are anti-mask in general just because it’s obvious that it’s stupid in a gym setting. Grow up.
5 Vaccinated people do not get seriously ill. Did you used to wear a mask before covid because of the cold or flu? If no then you have no ground to stand on.
You think that you will get to be immune or opt out of our great mass extinction? Think again!
Lots of people have become compromised in some way since covid started. You're being super heartless.
My dad died in all this shit. His cancer was not severe before covid, but it became severe during covid. He would have been exactly one of the people you're saying you don't give a shit about right now.
He is dead because of all this shit. Of course he was on his way out anyway, but I could have had more time with him if circumstances were better. People refusing to care about others is exactly why he died earlier than he should have, because there was no oxygen available, because covid patients had used it all.
It's not just covid people you're affecting. There is a huge knock on effect in the resources drained from the system that goes to literally EVERY single other life in need of saving and care.
Please, really think this over. We deserved more time with him and it was stolen from us by a completely useless covid response that caused knock on effects for people entirely unrelated to covid. He absolutely wouldn't have gone when he did if oxygen were available that night, but it wasn't.
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I'm sharing a personal experience about a person affected by covid who died not because he caught covid but because infections of other people affects the healthcare that can be provided to ALL people in urgent care. The point isn't to emotionally manipulate, it just happens to be what I've actually experienced first hand. You're acting like healthcare is an infinite resource and that completely unrelated people don't get affected if thousands of covid patients are in the system, that's simply not the case, the more people that are in the system the worse the system gets for everyone due to resource drain.
Also, you're a fucking asshole.
Eat shit.
:jesus-christ: TIL not wanting people to suffer and die they way your father did is 'emotional manipulation'
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You keep using this boomer line about covid being just like the flu. The flu kills an average of ~36,000 people in the US per year. In the last year, covid has killed ~460,000 people in the US. That's with ongoing vaccine rollout for the majority of that period. Yeah, people change their fucking behaviors when we go from dealing with the flu, to what is effectively more than a dozen simultaneous flu seasons.
You're pointing to the fact that people weren't careful around medically vulnerable people before to justify that when they are now facing a far more dire situation we shouldn't care if they die.
post what I wrote in context next time instead of trying to create a strawman to virtue signal against. it's pathetic.
I wrote that in the context of replying to this: "also fun stuff today like that article re: an outbreak in Massachusetts had 75% of cases involving vaccinated individuals. Yeah, wow, you’re less likely to die, and probably won’t be severely crippled, enjoy your lifelong cough- hope the next wave of SuperCovid doesn’t finish the job!"
the flu killed people before covid but no one wore masks for that. then came covid and it killed 10x the people as the flu, so people wore masks. now vaccinated people have lowered their risk of dying of Covid back to flu-like levels or less thanks to the vaccine. so they're taking off the masks. this is completely different than a bommer anti-mask argument that conflated the flu with covid in the context of no vaccine being available. but you just want to create a strawman to virtue signal against. why is it? why is making yourself feel righteous so important to you that you'd mis-represent my arguments? stop being a :LIB:
You are a selfish fucking asshole, completely indistinguishable from any given right-winger.
I replied directly to your comment, the context is right there for anyone to see.
If masks only protected the wearer, I wouldn't care if vaccinated people wore them. But we know that with the delta variant, and the effects of the vaccine wearing down over time, vaccinated people are going to be an increasing part of keeping the virus spreading through the population.
People who can't get vaccines are still in as much danger if they catch covid as they were before the vaccine. If vaccinated people stop caring about them because they personally are protected from consequences that makes them assholes.
You are pushing for acceptance of vulnerable people dying preventable deaths, because vulnerable people have died preventable deaths in the past. I have a problem with that. I keep rereading your comments for more 'context', but nothing changes the apparent message here. If you think that's wrong, maybe rethink what you wrote.
I'm done with this conversation. I've already said everything I'm choosing to say.
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Chud chud chud everyone’s a chud except the most hysterical pandemic chicken little in the room. That’s you.
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This line of reasoning will result in more more new strains that will not be affected by the vaccine. This will put us back at square one again or maybe even worse because who knows what the new strains will be like. You're risking mountains of corpses because you don't like wearing a bit of fabric, don't be like this.
Oh I don’t mind at all. I don’t go to any gym. I just go to grocery store and i wear mask and it ok. But I understand where felix is coming from.
It’s the anti-vaxxers that deserve scorn not anyone else. And politicians and capitalists obviously.
Related to 5, other fun stuff includes that Israeli study showing that 19% of breakthrough infections resulted in long Covid. Good times!
that's 19% of the 60% of vaccinated people who get breakthrough cases. starts to be a small number. and "long covid" can mean so many different things. from the mundane to the crippling. i don't know a ton about long covid but I think the number of vaccinated people who end up with severe long covid is going to be similar to the number of people who end up with long term problems from getting the flu. I guess we shall see!
I think I’m particularly sensitive to not taking risks as a healthy, double vaxxed friend of mine in his 30s ended up in the ICU with Delta. He’s doing better now, albeit still exhausted a month after being discharged. I know very well that he’s an extreme outlier, but it was still scary and heightened the risk for me, perhaps unreasonably so.
Personally I don’t have a problem maintaining NPIs like masks and distancing as long as possible, to reduce the reproduction (and hence mutation) rate to increase the chances of a lasting return to safety. Sadly, I think it’s going to be moot discussion regardless of what the CDC recommends now though, Delta is going to do what it’s going to do, both in terms of direct harm and new variants.
I can agree with all that.
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Excellent counter argument.
Self-righteous virtue signaling feels amazing and makes you feel vewwy righetous I understand believe me, but it is :LIB: SHIT.
Way to be the reddit bro and respond to the person telling you to piss off, and not the person giving you a 5 point argument as to why you should piss off
Way to be the extremely online person who comments this 5 minutes after the response. Log off loser. What could be more reddit bro than that??? the reply you are whining about is right here sweaty: https://hexbear.net/post/129554/comment/1496837
The hell is wrong with you? You're being asked to wear a mask for a bit longer and are responding like every maga brained moron that screamed about how they couldn't get a haircut.
I have close friends that are immuno-compromised. Another one is going through chemo in the midst of all this. So they deserve death, according to you? And it's virute signaling to press people to do a bit more then the bare fucking minimum?
how is not wanting people to die virtue signalling wtf? :jesse-wtf:
Yes, I am quite certain that the virus will kill all the people who deserve it, and won't disproportionately kill the poor and vulnerable.
:downbear:
Every day hexbear strays further into social darwinism when it comes to covid.
Hexbear anti mask protest outside the local gym and it's fine cause it's not Applebee's cause what makes you a chud boomer or a based gen z is your consumption choices and not whether you're willing to kill people for your pathetic convenience.
yeah what could go wrong with this attitude? moronic
If limo buskit could have done a riot they would have you lost.
Indeed. Do what you want chud morons. Cough on my grandma.
/s Makes sense.
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It will also lead to more mutations, unfortunately.
Unfortunately indeed!
It is, unfortunately, a complicated topic. The largest unvaccinated group in the US are the uninsured, with 52% having received no doses. People without insurance literally do not believe it’s free (can you blame them? They’re also partly right that plenty of health businesses will try and charge them in some capacity)
The second least vaccinated group are Republicans at 48% having received no doses.
There are large societal forces at work here. What it means, I dunno. But I do think it’s worth considering. Much of this is largely a foregone conclusion at this point. I agree that “fuck some people” is correct, I’m just not sure that “the unvaccinated” as a whole should be that group.
It’s been a little hard on my mental health not being able to get into the gym and do my mma stuff. But ya know, I just haven’t been doing it because it’s obviously not safe
Yeah disregard my grumpy ass if you have a mental condition. It must be hard as fuck to deal with that. :meow-hug:
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Deaths from Covid in 2020:
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This account is obvious wrecker shit
Surprised they've lasted this long before gulag tbh
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Dust in the wind...
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That sucks that your roommates smoke at home. I would have no tolerance for that. Maybe your situation doesn't allow a battle.
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Good for you for helping your dad. You're a hero.
It can't be that hard for the government to make small affordable apartments for people :deeper-sadness:
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Ah, I get it. I guess there are some solid reasons to wanting to be in a gym. I still think you should have to wear a mask or have some thing in place to keep everyone safe though.
Personally I don't have motivation at home. Also it's unbearably hot outside so I can't run.
Plus my gym is ran by my school and membership is included. Also I get a bonus if I swipe in a set number of times.
And it's a relatively small town so when I go after hours it's just me so I don't need to mask up or else I probably wouldn't go because masking up while working out is a new level of hell I'm not willing to deal with.
I guess in cases like that I understand. Felix here is still being a butt about it though.
Oh absolutely lol if you're in a gym with people don't bitch about being asked to mask up lol
Can we talk about how hard it is to breath wearing a mask doing hard labor? Or you gonna call me a bitch for saying its hard to breath.
You must've misread my comment. I agree with you. If there were people in my gym and I had to mask up I would not go. I would figure out how to work from home.
Sorry if a worldwide pandemic with a DLC upgrade is an inconvenience.
He can afford to basically buy all the gym stuff for himself.
same, but I just go at dawn or in the evening
I'd be lying if getting up in the morning isn't nearly goddamn impossible for me lol
yeah, I only do it because my sleep schedule gets completely fucked. But I actually enjoy being the only person awake, most of the time
How is Felix bougie? He makes like $75k/year in a partnership, not exactly a ton of money. My cousin is a linesman who makes quite a bit more, is he bad because he makes money?
As far as his take goes, it’s astounding to me that anyone cares
chapo makes ~$163,350 per month
This site is a bunch of enablers.
i think there are only like 10 people here who actually listen to it
Yeah because actual fans of the podcast were driven away from this site because the politics here are more toxic than twitter.
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Amber.
no one cares mate, no one cares
First they got rid of the downvote button, then they added gender tags, then they change the name of the website from chapo.chat to hexbear in a cynical marketing ploy. Now this site is literally just for trans people and not at all for real leftist politics unless you consider the constant bitching about literal whos misgendering someone on twitter. Also the hypocrisy, the blm protesters didn't wear masks, you support feds when it comes to the January 6th protestors, you people know nothing about Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, or China yet you all support them unconditionally because they claim to be communist or were. You people would try to kill me if you had power, you want me to agree with you or are you just gonna post a pig's anus like whenever a troublesome thought goes into your head.
:ban-hammer:
:gamer-gulag:
i refer you to my previous statement
You can leave.
You gonna do communism on one website? What have any of you fuckers done for workers? I'm in a union and I hate it they take money out of my paycheck for no benefit to me, I joined the dsa but left when I realized they cared more about twitter bullshit than raising the minimum wage.
I let your dad fuck me while he wore a Stalin costume.
Actual fans of the podcast who pay money are paypig Losers who deserve to be put in a camp because they’re probably all PMC liberal scum.
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the shitty podcast
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There’s 6 of them and they fund a lot of projects, so they all make about $75k/year. High-level financial breakdowns have been published in the past. They’re not just sitting at home jerking off all day, there are expenses to any business
like what?
because divided by the 6 of them, it works out to ~$326,700 each per year
also that number is just their patreon money, not counting merchandise or anything else they have going on
For their projects, you can look up the political projects they fund just as a start, it’s not insignificant. Social projects are harder to find, but again at least Felix or Chris is posting one about every month. They’ve got several media projects ongoing now, and all of their projects have costs.
I’m not trawling through Twitter to find them, but Felix has posted and talked about their financial details. I’m choosing to believe them because they don’t have a good reason to lie and they’ve got plenty of reason to not lie, given that there’s still plenty of people raking them over the coals even with this stuff.
so you can't point me to anything, expect me to take your word for it that they somehow drain the vast majority of their income into nebulous "projects", and that i should trust what they say about their finances when they aren't even working class
yeah, i'm not going to trust the word of some rich dickheads tbh
$75k a year is a fuckton of money lmao.
I care because not wearing a mask in a pandemic kills people, that's why.
Thanks for stating the obvious. I know covid is bad, I’m saying I don’t know how anyone can care what some guy they’ve never met says about it when there are no good options anyway. There’s a lot of guys out there you can imagine when you’re mad at your phone, you’ll be busy.
In Brooklyn it’s enough to live mildly comfortably until you need a major car repair, or have a kid, or have a chronic illness. Is that what bougie means now?
No it means :pigpoop:
got em