I'm a little peeved that individuals with high IQs are often perceived to be inherently desirable under all circumstances. High IQ people are more likely to be frustrated by performing many tasks that are absolutely critical for a functioning society. "Dumb" people can be incredibly valuable.
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Hi. I would like you to know that you're an elitist asshole who loves the smell if their own farts.
Intelligence is NOT a good determiner of the kind of job you will do in society and most people who work shit, undervalued jobs are in that position not because they aren't smart, but because society bludgeoned them until any other path seemed impossible.
people who work on assembly lines are able to do it because they need money to live in a capitalist society, and so will take the available job. id hesitate to say theyre "fine" with it and are content only knowing how to do that thing. think about where you find factory work and what kind of condition the people who work there generally live in.
Idk your political beliefs but I assume you're a worker. Personally, I think it's useful to remind people, especially people who don't own capital that they are useful, capable and live in deprivation because their deprivation is required so they the upper class can live in idle pleasure. Now, let's think about this materially.
You find manufacturing and logistics work all over, historically, but most recently in the south and midwest. These regions are also fundamentally abandoned by the federal government content to let them languish there as long as they can collect taxes from them. As you said, because neoliberalism saw fit to export these jobs overseas. But without proper access to quality education, infrastructure, and jobs, these people are reduced to backbreaking, low pay, time-consuming work with little left in physical and mental tanks. So they generally don't have the money, feeling, or prior knowledge to cultivate skills that the upper classes find useful or admirable like violin playing or w/e. So this (incorrect) idea that theyre not intelligent exists because of their poverty, which exists because of the upper class's need for a lower class, which exists because of capitalism.
This is a condition they endure not one most of them prefer. And yes chuds take horse paste because based facebook meme told them to, but that is a symptom of an anti-intellectual disease grown and encouraged by governments federal and local. Very few americans know how to properly research, and decades of economic decisions prioritizing the personal profit of robber barons, leading to regional poverty, as well as manufactured culture war has convinced most of them of the futility of even trying. That's not lack of intelligence or ability to learn. That's the evidence of a dysfunctional society hell bent on having an easily manipulated lower class.
wha- your personal consumer preferences have no bearing on the material conditions of the society you live unless you are in a position of real political power. Feel free to live where ever. That's not a real response to anything I said, and as someone who describes themselves as a "top tech talent" you know that.
Yeah I don't think saying people are "fine" with anything they do for work really overlooks that people are doing it to keep a roof over their head . Hell the whole 'an intelligent person wouldn't like X job' totally glosses over the idea that jobs are not the only outlet of mental exercise.
If anything I think there does need to be a hereditarian left
jfc liberals
No you see we're NATIONAL Socialists. :no-fash:
They're gonna co-opt the language, time is a flat circle.
it,s fascinating to me that some people value "not conciding anything to neonazis" than figuring what is true
- Guy with Milton Friedman avatar
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Do you actually not grasp that people who have low aptitude for intellectual labor but high aptitude for physical labor actually want to work jobs where they aren't constantly struggling? Both of my parents are high school dropouts who work blue collar jobs and have always expressed a preference for this work. My father's job is physical labor much of which is outdoors and he always considered that an upside to the job. He worked quite successfully at a related desk job for a few years at one point and did not like it. He was offered a higher paying management position and did not take it because he neither enjoyed nor desired that type of work.
This sort of statement is easily the highest form of ignorance espoused by the upper classes. Some people prefer a consistent job with physical rather than mental demands and prefer it to the extent that they will not accept higher class labor unless they cease to be able to sustain a personally acceptable quality of life with the pay they receive for physical labor.
I'm too hungover someone go explain to these nerds what this means in terms of disproving the profit motive.
Brain Plasticity isn't a thing. You're either born an Eloi or a Morloch, and wouldn't it be nice if everyone just stuck to their genetically predisposed castes?
Why do you want people who are naturally good at dancing and picking flowers to do the confusing and difficult work of snatching people from the glade and dragging them into the ground to be devoured?
I mean, I've worked jobs where everyone there was there because they were neorodivergent and would suffer in another job. Shit like backcountry guiding, trail building, ski guiding, etc. I think there is a genetic component.
That said, the article's still trash, and Horroway's right about everything 😉
I mean yeah, genes can have an impact. Someone who can eat dairy products without any problems is more likely to be a cheesemaker than someone who throws up after eating cheese. However, all the places where genes might make an impact the person will figure out for themselves, we won't need to analyze them to figure it out. It wasn't some secret allele that makes people predisposed to trail-guiding, it was a very obvious genetic difference that they dealt with themselves.
It wasn’t some secret allele that makes people predisposed to trail-guiding
I have the tolerating condescending rich people for weeks on end allel
I mean, I think its heavily overstated. People love to create a hostile work environment and then attribute attrition to "bad fit" rather than "shit management".
But yes, this article is on a whole lower level of shit takes.
I could work at the best desk job ever and still scream in the bathroom twice a day.
backcountry guiding, trail building, ski guiding, etc.
these have a lot of neurodivergent people?
Every time somebody makes a The Time Traveler reference on this site I'm pleased.
Even if the answer to the first question were "genes predict 100% of academic performance differences", I would still insist that eugenics policies are an unconscionable violation of the right to bodily autonomy.
What a fucking dweeb. What better way to illustrate that you’re an ivory basement weirdo with no skin in the game than to refer to eugenics / genocide as “a violation of the right to bodily autonomy.”
Holy shit, Ivory basement is really good. I need to work this term into a lecture now.
A violation was performed on the rights and autonomy of certain members of the population of our current society, which affects birth trends in an effort to create a new and better society than previously possible from genetic potential, based on our theories and understanding of inheritance.
Future grant proposition: I take 500 ceos failchildren, and try to find some common gene which leads to them also becoming ceos/vps.
This is only a good idea if its one of those double blind experiments. So, make sure all their eyes are out before you start.
