Two people killed in the accident. Seems to be that the battery actually malfunctions prior to the crash and then crashes into a tree. Car is completely engulfed in a battery fire within 3 minutes. Cells scattered around the scene.
This seems absolutely horrific.
And to think they want these things in cramped underground tunnels across the USA.
Critical support in comrade Elon's quest to immolate the rich in their suicide tunnels
Imagine Sin City collapsing into underground tunnels of inexhaustible fire. Sounds almost biblical.
I'm glad our government has maintained strong consumer protections which will naturally prevent this from happening again, lest the corporation responsible be severely and meaningfully punished, or even nationalized.
The cars in Fallout are less explosive.
Like, this would be comical if it didn't kill two people.
What the fuck kind of car just blows up like that?
The batteries are pretty dangerous by nature, but you can design around them for safety. It might mean a more "boring" car, and flashy stuff like heavy electric-assisted door handles, and retracting exterior handles are pretty concerning in particular. The answer as always though, is to build out public transit infrastructure and mixed-use high/medium density urban developments, but American hogs aren't ready to have that conversation yet.
You can't really design around them though. Batteries are so insanely inefficient compared to gasoline or diesel fuel (or even hydrogen) that you have to make the majority of the weight of the car be all battery, and fill out pretty much all the structure that isn't the passenger compartment with batteries.
The famous failure of the Ford Pinto was that the gas tank was thin and placed directly on the back of the car, where any collision would damage it. The normal fix is to move the gas tank where it is better protected, and make it thicker. The typical location is tucked under the trunk, right behind and below the spare tire. It's small enough it fits there.
The low energy density of batteries forces you to make the entire bottom of the car be like the Pinto fuel tank. It's the least dangerous spot to put it. But it's still a huge weak spot that is a disaster if hit. Gasoline ignites easily, but not literally instantly upon contact with the air like batteries do.
Another huge problem with electric cars is they have to be the weight of a truck to carry enough battery to work. And I don't mean like a pickup truck, I mean like a tow truck in weight. This is hugely destructive on roads.
I would absolutely love to be proven wrong if the answer isn’t just “electric cars”
The electric trolley cars work great
Wish the guy didn't completely cover up the footage with his stupid name and phone number
People don't want scummy local news stealing their videos without attribution, but doing it this way in an incident where two people died, itself seems kind of scummy?
Surely at that point they want to get paid for the footage? I mean if the local news plays your video without attribution, that kind of sucks, but it doesn't go out of your way to watermark the video suck. Especially a watermark that doxxes you, lol.
Getting stalked by a Musk psycho to own the local news.
Car fires are incredibly rare. I’ve only seen 3 in the last 5 years, and I’m on the road ALL THE TIME.
I have seen many many more accidents.
Also with exception to 1 car fire, neither of the other two involved a collision
I’ve had a car burst into flames. But it took a long time and it was also because fuel was still pumping fuel into a hot engine. But it did not explode after I rolled my vehicle unlike this Tesla.
I don't even think I'd ride in a Tesla, let alone buy one. The fact that the doors lock you inside if the electrical system gives out because of a fire that can't be easily extinguished is insane.
There is a mechanical failsafe but I don't think it's very intuitive. Also you can't open the doors from the outside, you have to break the windows to help an unconscious driver inside
Anyone have a clip of that guy unironically saying the 'sacrifice' that one Tesla driver made would make the roads safer for humanity because his death provided Elon Musk crash data?
these cars seem to be so fragile, like there's a critical strike spot that makes them explode like in a FPS game
I imagine it like Monster Hunter. First you hit the wheels to get the beast limping, then you go straight for the soft spots.
Those lithium ion batteries are actually great. They're very energy dense. I used to be on the solar car team in college and we made the solar car batteries the exact same way. We also had to follow strict design rules for driver and passenger egress so that a driver/passenger could egress really quickly if required. The video is just indescribable... I'm guessing a battery failure preceded the accident, but it must have been a massive failure to cause such a catastrophic effect. Probably points to a poor design, but that goes without saying
I'd imagine it's an issue with the battery chain. They're awesome batteries, but even one failing is pretty catastrophic looking.
I imagine one going off could lead to a chain reaction. No idea the science there though
Pretty much lol. They run those big lithium ions batteries in a huge chain with a bunch of others ones, and stick them in a Tesla brand box.
Most all electric cars run on vape batteries or phone style batteries. (phone style are arguably more fragile)
paying some slaveowner for a piece-of-shit-on-wheels with a fucking plastic computer dashboard and body panel gaps so you can look goofy af before it kills you autonomously in a Michael Bay style explosion because you accidentally ran over a speed bump too fast or something
Gonna start walking passed parked Teslas with my fingers in my ears like a Loony Toon about to set off some dynamite
Funny I never see car guys appear to defend elon muck and say any car would catch fire like that.
Looking it up, cars can catch fire due to oil leaking somewhere, an electrical wiring issue, nothing especially clear tbh. Oil can hit high high temperatures and catch fire. Your instinct is the fuel, but fuel is delivered to rails on the top of the engine by pressurized lines, but they dont spray everywhere in an accident. Those systems were actually designed not to cause a fire. Fuel isnt kept by the engine, it’s piped in from the back, and needs a pump to feed it out.
But we know what lithium does in water, even atmospheric water causes a reaction, but these guys REALLY try to defend :melon-musk:
Even if regular cars were combusting all the time, Teslas would still be extra bad because if the battery catches you only have about a minute to get out of the cab before you're dead. Meanwhile, the doors are incredibly difficult to open when the power fails.
If your car catches fire usually something was really wrong to begin with, unless you have a car known for exploding like any GM car with a 3800. Even then, it's pretty rare.
Tesla just sucks lol
It’s a little disappointing car guys arent out there trashing teslas, but they also kinda dont care about them?
They do lol
part of it is just reactionary "hell yeah bruther ICE" but they're genuinely shitty otherwise
Car guys never defend Teslas because Teslas are shitty cars. The closest thing to a redeeming quality they have is the ones that cost six figures can do a party trick where they launch insanely fast and then overheat.
