• buh [she/her]
    ·
    3 years ago

    "why didn't the wizards get involved with WWII and use their powers to stop the Holocaust?" I think we're about to get the real answer

    • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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      3 years ago

      It appears a major plot point is going to be Dumbledore heroically finding a way to keep wizards out of the war.

      Rowling’s centrism has reached cringe we never thought possible.

      • RNAi [he/him]
        hexagon
        ·
        3 years ago

        Having the highest moral ground by letting people be genocided

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        How do they reconcile that with his involvement in resisting the Death Eaters, who are deliberately supposed to have Nazi parallels?

        • YouKnowIt [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          He didn't really do anything there either, if anything he was basically the dude that rejected Hitler's application to art school lmao

          • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Eh, he did a bit. He founded the Order of the Phoenix, as well as found a few Horcruxes before Harry.

            • YouKnowIt [he/him]
              ·
              3 years ago

              Man got got by the very first one he found and almost got his prophecy delivered hero killed by the second

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      3 years ago

      They are gonna implicate "muggles can't kill so many people that fast" don't they

    • bananon [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The real answer is they did, but only the Russian wizards from the Goblet of Fire

      • RNAi [he/him]
        hexagon
        ·
        3 years ago

        That's cannon from book seven yes, althought I'm not sure Durmstang or whatever was called was located in Russia.

        • bananon [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Wait is that real I made it up. Also apparently Durmstrang has no canonical location, just somewhere in northeastern Europe

          • RNAi [he/him]
            hexagon
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            edit-2
            3 years ago

            In book seven the dude from Drumstrang is barely stopped from kicking the ass of the father of Luna Lovewood, who is a weirdo who wears the symbol of the Deathly Hallows, which was the symbol Grindelwald used to do his nazism in eastern Europe. Nobody in the big party (that included french people) knew shit about that symbol except the dude from Eastern Europe, who got really pissed cuz his grandpas were killed by Grindelwaldists.

            Curious...

              • RNAi [he/him]
                hexagon
                ·
                3 years ago

                Hey, y'all told me that I'm a liberal and I should read theory so I did :theory-gary:

                  • RNAi [he/him]
                    hexagon
                    ·
                    3 years ago

                    Instructions unclear, mind stuck in a children book serie

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago
          covering my nerdy compulsion by making comedic shitposts

          cannon :hst-gun:

          canon :virgil-bb:

          • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Not an attack on you personally but im surprised we still have virgil emotes after the whole, ya know, him grooming a teenager thing

              • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Idk, the fact that there's no one defending him including himself and that others are speaking out against him (even if they're not victims themselves) saying it's well known in their circles makes it a pretty strong "allegedly"

              • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Oh I thought this was pretty common knowledge. They never said it outright but it's pretty well understood that him grooming a 15 year old (I think, maybe 14 or 16) girl is why he's no longer on Chapo

                • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
                  ·
                  3 years ago

                  It very well might be common knowledge, I just had a big gap where I stopped paying attention to Chapo.

                      • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
                        ·
                        3 years ago

                        Yeahh, also pretty disappointed in the chapos that they wouldn't say anything about it and said he left to pursue "other creative projects" (he's now doing a podcast with a former bernie campaign staffer, as noted in the article)

                        • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
                          ·
                          3 years ago

                          Is he still on Bad Faith? I listen to an episode or two but it didn't really work for me so i haven't listened since like the first two episodes

                          • regul [any]
                            ·
                            3 years ago

                            He's still in the header, but just looking at the twitter feed for the pod he's not in any of the videos posted. Safe to say he has gone dark completely.

                      • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
                        ·
                        3 years ago

                        It's my personal theory that everyone's refusal to speak up is part of why Amber left/went dark.

                • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
                  ·
                  3 years ago

                  It probably is common knowledge, but it is also worth noting lots of people have never or no longer keep up with the chapo trap house. I have never watched a single clip and don't know the people. The old subreddit was one swell shindig and this site is the only one not swarming with chuds.

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      On one hand, I'd like to see a good writer navigate such a complicated topic in a story. On the other, I'm looking forward to Rowling fucking this up.

    • Parzivus [any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I mean wizards barely even see muggles as human right? They probably just don't give a fuck, as fucking awful as that sounds

    • rubpoll [she/her]
      ·
      3 years ago

      "Because trying to stop it would have been worse, actually." - the inevitable lib-brained message.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      3 years ago

      Harry Potter and the Reasons Against Welcoming the St. Louis Vessel

    • ABigguhPizzahPieh [none/use name,any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Dumbledore WANTED to help but some Bolsheviks made fun of him for not using magic to feed starving people so he had no choice but to keep wizards out of WW1 and WW2.

      • OldSoulHippie [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        "ministry of magic parliamentarian says it's not how the process is supposed to unfold. They want to help, but alas..."

  • emizeko [they/them]
    ·
    3 years ago

    imagining the Red Army rolling tanks into the grounds of Hogwart's

    • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      shortly after apprehension the Sorting Hat bit into the cyanide capsule it had secreted in its anus

    • LoudMuffin [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      i haven't read anything past the last book in the main series but do they ever say if wizards can be merc'ed by dudes with guns

      like WTF does Hogwarts do vs a invasion of Berlin style artillery barrage

      can't I just snipe Death Eaters

      wtf

      • YouKnowIt [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I think it just looks like a ruin, but all they would need is a sympathetic person with the right coordinates

        Probably why they never had an American in the series, the CIA would drone them for getting on their MKULTRA terf

      • StellarTabi [none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        probably the muggles "walk past it" because it's magically obfuscated/hidden/disappeared, maybe also would be evacuated.

      • KoeRhee [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        they can make like barriers and stuff but if they don't know ur hostile you could just pop one in the head
        their communities are pretty inaccessible tho so large scale stuff wouldn't happen

  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    the Wizarding World's involvement in War War II

    "I cast Finalus Solutionem!"

  • NewAccountWhoDis [she/her]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    "The wizarding world tried but the native wizards of Germany set up a magic barrier" is my guess

    • 6bicycles [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Isn't JK Rowling doing the screenplay? She has absolutely terminal TERF-Brain and as noted by the Trashfuture podcast, it infiltrates your every thought.

      She's going to blame the Institut für Sexualwissenschaften in Berlin for not only researching transsexuality but also weird wizard transsexuality and once the nazis burn the thing down, it implodes into a magic barriere of dark magic that stops good uprighteous men or women wizards from doing anything about the holocaust because the field bars everyone who is cis or some shit

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        JKR will depict a wizard using a potion to change sex instantaneously and without any negative side effects, and this will somehow be positioned as a bad thing and the formula for the potion will be destroyed by the heroes.

        • rubpoll [she/her]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          Worse, a sex-changed evil wizard will be used to infiltrate a women's bathroom to murder one of the main characters.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Nazi wizards getting the wall would be great.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 years ago

        They're going to somehow make the USSR the bad guys. Or just not acknowledge their existence and present WW2 as something that just happened in a bubble with no historical leadup or follow through.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          It's even more simple.

          The soviet union were cartoonish "send hordes of people against the enemy lines" in their tactics.

          The wizards save the world from fascism. The soviet union was just there. Also they stop bad soviets from doing bad things to nazis.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    You know how in Marvel movies where the villain starts saying stuff that sounds good, but then they do something evil to turn the audience against them? I imagine that's how it would feel for J.K. Rowling when the nazis start destroying research into gender identity, but then do genocide.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      the episode of Invincible with the villain who wants to destroy Mt. Rushmore reeks so badly of this. starts talking about how it's racist and bullshit, then goes so far off the rails it's jarring

      (I mean yes he's supposed to have CTE or whatever but it's still blatant)

      • MathVelazquez [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I felt like that was mostly played for jokes. In the comics he's just a psycho attacking Mt. Rushmore and the writers decided to throw in at least some reason why.

        • emizeko [they/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          yeah, I can see that interpretation. I only watched it once so I should probably rewatch it more sober again

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          It's also common knowledge in film and TV that if you want to get your more radical ideas past the network/execs/censors you give them to the bad guy. The dumbasses there see the bad guy saying good/socialist things and think "aha! Perfect propaganda!" then workers see a bad guy saying socialist things and think "oh shit, I want to be the bad guy now"

  • crime [she/her, any]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Can't wait to hear what the society based around blood quantum and a magical ubermensch did during WWII!

  • Reversi [none/use name]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    Can't wait for the ultimate reveal that Hitler was a wizard and he cast an evil spell on the poor, unsuspecting German people

    It turns out that you can try as hard as you can with all sorts of edgy bullshit, but a kid's book is still a kid's book, especially when you do the whole "yeah magic can block radio waves and turn off guns and mind control people, and wizards see ordinary humans as subhuman, but world events are still exactly the same"

      • blobjim [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Harry Potter and the Adventures of Klaus Barbie!

        • RNAi [he/him]
          hexagon
          ·
          3 years ago

          Harry helps Barbie prevent the future where an evil populist coca farmer gets in power :evo:

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      3 years ago

      Urban fantasy don't work for audiences >12 yo

      • Reversi [none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Yeah, the part where they have a class showing teenagers how to make date rape drugs doesn't really fly, does it

        • RNAi [he/him]
          hexagon
          ·
          3 years ago

          Uh, don't remember that one but it's implied by the existence of "love potions"

      • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 years ago

        Dresden Files? Not all urban fantasy is YA. And not all YA is harry pooter.

          • MathVelazquez [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            I loved American Gods for doing it all in a one-off book. One of my friends still has that as a matter of fact...

        • nohaybanda [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Dresden files is incredibly lib brained too, and I have no doubt that Jim staying away for twitter is the main reason I can still stomach the series. Also, I need to read the last two books but I'm procrastinating on it.

  • Metalorg [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    They are going to have Winston Churchill be a secret wizard, and Hitler siding with Grindelwald. Probably Stalin too.

    • echognomics [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Actually, Stalin dropped out of his seminary training to learn magic at Koldovstoretz, and graduated top of his year after publishing a groundbreaking dissertation on the Vanishing Spell.

        • echognomics [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Hogwarts didn't always have bathrooms. Before adopting Muggle plumbing methods in the eighteenth century, witches and wizards simply relieved themselves on to the comically-engorged testicles of the school's famous communal fat hogs, and vanished the evidence.

  • Barabas [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    So what is the over/under on framing the communists as just as antisemitic as the nazis while lionizing Hindenburg or whatever?

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I highly doubt this will include any muggle politicians besides Hitler. If it does, it will be Leon Trotzky supporting Palestine in a women's bathroom in Berlin.

  • Alex_Jones [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    There are death eater loyalists in South America who cloned Voldemort.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Wait it takes place in Berlin? Lol, wonder if JKR goes full "I'm not saying Hitler was right, but the LGBT movement in Weimar Germany simply went too far".