That's some real commitment to transphobia! Though I am once again reminding you that you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them."
Love my trans comrades! :trans-heart:
They payed 20M for a stand up dude
They payed 20M for a stand up dude
They payed 20M for a stand up dude
They payed 20M for a stand up dude
They payed 20M for a stand up dude
:marx-joker:
Are you telling me that they spent more money on one Dave Chappelle set than all of Squid Game??
im sorry mr burnham cost 4 million dollars for that special recorded in his living room
being famous is a good job. I should have chosen that instead of choosing to not be famous.
Love how “being a Youtuber” is a viable career for kids now that all its disruption is done and it has become fully mature in its ability to be exploited and controlled by Capital
I’m surprised he didn’t makes more honestly. That was one of the best pieces of art in the past decade.
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Are people not allowed to enjoy art just because it's on a capitalist streaming site? Because in that cast all art is bad...
Socialist aren’t supposed to like popular things produced by capital. You have to live your whole life being an edgy teenager. But I really don’t give a shit About what other people think about my preferences
I understand it's not for everyone but I loved it. Welcome to the Internet is such a mood and I now frequently have "My stupid friends are having stupid children" on repeat in my head.
why should someone with more than enough money have made more, merit =/= excessive compensation
Except he actually made Netflix way more than he was paid. Does he not deserve the to be paid fairly for his labor? Are you also one of these “Hasan lives in big house bad ppl? Athletes get paid too much.”
This is a very important distinction to make. Bo performed a lot of labor to make this show. It was over a year of work. A $4 million salary is still an insane amount of money, but regardless the value he created for Netflix was significantly more than what he received.
However, this is only looking at things monetarily. The reason Bo’s special is able to be worth so much is that Netflix hires hundreds of employees to organize and consolidate the attention of their customers, which is then lent to Bo with the understanding that Bo will participate in this attention cycle. So Bo actually gains a lot of social capital out of this exchange as well. Compared to every other worker in the chain, he gets pretty much all of it.
But here’s the important part: that social capital is a loan. An investment. It will let him retain enough clout and prestige to do another Netflix special in a few years, but if he stops producing or begins to actively undermine the system, he will be cut off and forgotten. You could say that even compared to the executive who pay him he ends up with more social capital, but there is a difference between being the user of social capital and being the owner. Bo is the user. The worker. The faceless Netflix CEO is the owner. I don’t know anything about the Netflix CEO, but I’d imagine they keep their public life pretty low key. Despite this, they are in control of more social capital than Bo Burnham could ever utilize.
Bo is above line and he knows it. Even if he owned all of that equipment prior (pretty sure he didn’t), that’s half a career’s worth of accumulation from someone who’s had millions of dollars put forward to promote him.
So the person who makes the paintbrush also deserves a cut of every painters work? I don’t remember reading that in Kapital
Yeah I agree with that. Just don’t think they would be making money specifically from Bo or the production of any of his specials.
That was a lot of work for one guy with minimal staff though.
The company also evaluates its programs by “efficiency,” which balances a show’s reach with its price-tag. On that scale, Chappelle’s special scored 0.8 — less than the break-even score of 1. By comparison, Burnham’s “Inside” scored 2.8.
Labor is entitled to all it creates.
Bo did not create the social capital that put his work at that valuation. His work is amplified in value by the number of attention hours it can capture. Bo is famous, but he’s not that famous. He couldn’t have had that sort of reach with an independent release
Personally I can recognize complicated labor relations while also being resentful of people who don’t struggle to feed their families and waste money on random luxuries
No, you nerd, not unless your beer budget is large enough to remind me some massive systemic difference between us (if this is the case, you would have much larger problems than my resentment). There are probably people in the world who would resent both of us for things we don’t really consider luxuries. It’s not a logical impulse nor should it be a guiding motivation, but I’d still hope people can at least sympathize.
Also, are beaches not free where you are? Not trying to be shitty. I’m genuinely curious.
Uh huh, so the question is why are y'all focusing on one of the workers instead of the corporate entity sapping away that profit from the people that built that distribution mechanism?
Is it still tho?
1 mil is certainly nothing to sneeze at even now, and I wouldn't turn it down of course, but these days you'd have to invest it pretty wisely and/or live pretty frugally to stretch it out over an entire lifetime.
Across every age group, the average future lifetime earnings of women with Master's or PhD degrees is substantially lower than that for men with undergraduate degrees. For example, women aged 26 to 35 years with higher degrees have average lifetime earnings of £803,000, whereas men of the same age with undergraduate level qualifications have average lifetime earnings of around £1,160,000.
oh I don't think anyone's saying it's enough just that it's the average lifetime earnings
How the fuck do comedy specials cost so much money to make? Aren't they all just one guy on stage with a microphone for an hour or two? I don't understand how they can cost more than an actual show with multiple sets and locations, a large cast, special effects, etc.
Nobody who gets paid tens of millions of dollars to try to be funny for 90 minutes should be legally allowed to ever complain about anything.
"talent".
But yeah. We can assume almost all of that was what they paid Chappelle.
It's from a live show too so he probably got a good pay day from ticket sales as well.
Filming a fucking standup special should cost nothing. You out cameras in a room that you already charged people to be in.
Most specials are shot over several nights and use highly skilled operators from a bunch of different angles. Video editing, sound mixing, color grading, etc. Someone does set design and lighting design and all of this has to be coordinated. I’m not saying it’s impossible to do a DIY camera-in-the-back deal. Tony Hinchcliffe did it. But he did it as a schtick, not because he couldn’t afford a camera op.
As it stands, almost all that cost is going to labor and it’s not all going to Dave Chappelle. People below the line on any production deserve solidarity and recognition is all I’m saying.
Okay fine it's still significantly less than any other production and the extras paid to be there.
There's still no way they used more of that than Squid Game unless S. Korea workers are just played that little.
highly skilled operators
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I apologize. I have brain damage from listening to years of chapo parodies and reading series and some phrases set me off.
guys i've been too busy not being online, who the fuck is Chappelle and why is everyone talking about them?
Some dumbass who fucked around with ironic racism and found out 2 decades ago, then decided to come back and be transphobic
a washed-up boomer who yells at clouds because the world left him behind and he doesn't like it
Not like the "impact value" is any kind of real measurement though. The special got in the news and stuff so I'm sure it was worth it to Netflix.
This is apparently Netflix's own internal valuation metric though. So Netflix seems to believe it was a net loss.
Chapelle’s specials are some of the most rewatched on the whole platform. Keeping his stuff on there is worth the loss just to keep people engaged and not cancelling their subscriptions
I’m sure they do that to try an excuse cuts. There’s no way they lost money. The amount of people who watched that and then switched over to another show or created more loyalty to Netflix is more than worth it for them.
if only there were a comedy directed by a famous Jewish Comedian and starring a willy wonka which became a smash-hit musical which then became a movie again explaining how production loses can actually be gains.
lol fuck, if it made money at least it would make sense in a horrible way. now it's even worse.
