Stuff like "stupid, idiot, moron, dumb," you know the ones. If you’re insulting someone for their shitty garbage beliefs and all you can manage to come up with is ways to insult their intelligence, appearance, or other aspect about them that has nothing to do with their cruelty and shittyness, you should maybe reevaluate.
Just saw a thread on here where a user was stubbornly refusing to adjust their language when another user politely pointed out that it was harmful to our comrades as well, and the person refusing was massively upvoted and the comrade trying to explain why it was harmful was downvoted. Thought we were better than that
I'm not calling anyone out, just wanted to make a post explaining my feelings on it and that when stuff like that happens (not the intelligence based insults, I know its hard to switch, but getting insulted for asking people to avoid them) it hurts and makes me feel less welcome here </3
Using words like “You’re being ignorant” or “That’s a cruel belief” is actually more effective than just going “lmao idiot”.
If those are the words you actually mean to convey I'd say use them instead :)
Edit: if the reception this post got isn't a good proof that this is something this community needs to grapple with, I don't know what is.
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never trust anyone who tries to be the voice of “marginalized communities” in an internet forum pls
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We're tired of being wokescolded about everything. Not what Chapo was founded on.
Focusing on shit like "stop calling people stupid" doesn't actually do anything and is a distraction from actual leftist action.
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You mean if I'm going to partake in a community based on an ideology that advocates for the marginalized and vulnerable in society, people are going to expect me to listen to the marginilized and vunerable when they ask me to respect them? Idk sounds like wokescolding to me ://
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This is a really bad argument because it can be used as a generic defense of slurs.
Very few people aside from a few poor fucks who've internalised oppression or people who are trying to reclaim word unironically identify as [slur] but a lot of people are the thing [slur] is meant to target.
By definition, half of all people have below average intelligence and they didn't have a choice in being born with below average intelligence, so using "born with below average intelligence" as an insult is gross and ableist.
comrade claiming that other peoples subjectivities are silly or nonsensical is how the nazis got started please do better!
when an indigenous bolivian tells you that evo has to go- oh well shit!
I find your use of the ableist slur “asshole” incredibly hurtful. Please apologize and stop using this term
when a “person from a marginalized community” tells you you’re wokescolding and you call them an asshole or a fascist it just makes you a weird narcissist i think
Can we not do more than one thing at a time? Are you suggesting we wait until after the revolution to push back against something in our own community that harms our comrades and achieves nothing of value?
Big difference between wokescolding and: "Hey you know how we all figured out that using the r-word is pretty fucked? Maybe we should think a little about how we're using other, less severe insults designed to communicate the exact same thing."
Even if you're not bought in on that, there are so many more creative, precise ways to insult someone that aren't "ur a dum dum."
people are saying intelligence based insults are fascism in this thread.
edit: why downvote? are you saying it’s asking in good faith or that your “opponents” are fascists? surely it can’t be both?
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