My memory of it is bad, but do any of y’all remember when idubbbz tried to defend his use of slurs by arguing that their badness is subjective, therefore, him not being able to say slurs is the same as banning all words?
Too be honest, that is better than it used to be. Early YouTube was straight up minstrel shows and grown adults making pedophilia/rape jokes. Look up Deangelo Wallace’s take down of Shane Dawson, he was not some sort of exception. If you go back far into the Amnesia days of PewDiePie’s channel, he jokes about rape a significant degree. Youtube is and always has been very reactionary and it’s literally only in the last couple years that even Rad libs have been able to post without getting doxxed, swatted, and driven off the platform.
Yeah, I unsubbed from him when he went into drama too but it’s a genuinely good video that isn’t about just stirring shit like basically every other commentary channel. Don’t know about his other content though. Fortunately I don’t remember The Station, I wasn’t really on YouTube until around 2013 and didn’t get REALLY into it until much later. I only know about a lot of this other stuff because I’m addicted to YouTube and post-analyses of Internet culture lmao.
Well I think it has something to do with the pre-Youtube audiences. There were a ton of sites for video sharing before YouTube made them all basically obsolete so you’d have to track back to those areas. Since computers weren’t always common place, the first group of people to use them were likely straight wealthy white men/boys who are generally disconnected from politics but likely had some reactionary tendencies.
The type of people who could post on these sites were likely even higher up the hierarchy considering filming equipment was not really accessible to much of the population. People didn’t have smartphones they could just pull out and record whatever with.
Also, YouTube has always been very connected to gaming and the whole GamerGate thing is, from what I’ve heard, one of the larger catalysts that transitioned people from edgy atheism into reactionary politics.
So really it’s sort of a clusterfuck of a bunch of different cynical movements populated largely by comfortable straight white men simply because they have historically been the group to have first access to new technologies considering their disproportionate wealth. I think the overtly reactionary movements largely took hold after they felt their space was being threatened when these things slowly started becoming more and more accessible to other populations. Like a microcosmic recreation of things like the white backlash to successful Jewish and black and Chinese throughout America’s history.
At least this is my take on it from what I can gather about it. I was actually a kid when all this stuff went down.
My memory of it is bad, but do any of y’all remember when idubbbz tried to defend his use of slurs by arguing that their badness is subjective, therefore, him not being able to say slurs is the same as banning all words?
Are you talking about the video where he says the n-word repeatedly for 20 minutes?
He has a lot of videos were he says it so I don’t even remember which one specifically.
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Too be honest, that is better than it used to be. Early YouTube was straight up minstrel shows and grown adults making pedophilia/rape jokes. Look up Deangelo Wallace’s take down of Shane Dawson, he was not some sort of exception. If you go back far into the Amnesia days of PewDiePie’s channel, he jokes about rape a significant degree. Youtube is and always has been very reactionary and it’s literally only in the last couple years that even Rad libs have been able to post without getting doxxed, swatted, and driven off the platform.
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Yeah, I unsubbed from him when he went into drama too but it’s a genuinely good video that isn’t about just stirring shit like basically every other commentary channel. Don’t know about his other content though. Fortunately I don’t remember The Station, I wasn’t really on YouTube until around 2013 and didn’t get REALLY into it until much later. I only know about a lot of this other stuff because I’m addicted to YouTube and post-analyses of Internet culture lmao.
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Well I think it has something to do with the pre-Youtube audiences. There were a ton of sites for video sharing before YouTube made them all basically obsolete so you’d have to track back to those areas. Since computers weren’t always common place, the first group of people to use them were likely straight wealthy white men/boys who are generally disconnected from politics but likely had some reactionary tendencies.
The type of people who could post on these sites were likely even higher up the hierarchy considering filming equipment was not really accessible to much of the population. People didn’t have smartphones they could just pull out and record whatever with.
Also, YouTube has always been very connected to gaming and the whole GamerGate thing is, from what I’ve heard, one of the larger catalysts that transitioned people from edgy atheism into reactionary politics.
So really it’s sort of a clusterfuck of a bunch of different cynical movements populated largely by comfortable straight white men simply because they have historically been the group to have first access to new technologies considering their disproportionate wealth. I think the overtly reactionary movements largely took hold after they felt their space was being threatened when these things slowly started becoming more and more accessible to other populations. Like a microcosmic recreation of things like the white backlash to successful Jewish and black and Chinese throughout America’s history.
At least this is my take on it from what I can gather about it. I was actually a kid when all this stuff went down.