"It's a classic Will-less episode that kind of goes all over the place as we review the speakers list for this week's RNC. We talk about like, cars and tort reform a bunch, as well as a rising star in Republican politics.

We'll be covering the RNC all week on Twitch from 9-11pm E.S.T. over on www.twitch.tv/chapotraphouse"

  • grillpilled [he/him]
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    What you talkin about "Will-less"?

    I want to defend Will because ppl complain about him almost as much as they do about Amber and it seems like nonsense to me (I also appreciate Amber).

    Will is an amazing host/leader/Johnny Carson/moderator and also the most well-rounded for the normal content stuff that the other chapos do. He can do everything and none of the other chapos can do everything. Other chapos are minmaxed, but Will has perfect stats. I also love his voice. It always sounds like he's holding back laughter, and it's good to have someone other than Amber who has a non-nerd voice.

    If you listen to any chapo host on their own, like a Felix only This Is Sus or a Cushvlog, it's something very different from chapo. I love them, and Cushvlogs are one of my favourite things ever, but Will can be chapo all on his own. When he's a guest on another podcast, it becomes chapo.

    Will is very funny, very smart, very based, seems very nice, and warms my heart tbh. If I had to live on a space station with a chapo, it would be Will.

    It's embarrassing to say any of this stuff, but I feel like I need to defend Will's honour for some reason. I think that people complaining about Will is a symptom of people wanting heroes and also wanting to rank things in a consumerist cope way. People thinking that they have to choose the best chapo and insult the other chapos to prove how strongly they feel about their perfect choice of the best chapo. These people need to grill the hell out. All of the chapos are in the top 1% of podcasters, they work great together, and they don't need to be ranked. They're making dentist money, yeah, but these are actual people who aren't doing anything harmful and even their fans are shitting on whoever happens to be their least favourite co-host. Will is great. They're all great. They don't need to be ranked. I'm really worried that Will will see people saying this stuff and take it seriously, even though the people who are saying it are fans of the pod and do enjoy Will. I don't think that Will would take it seriously, but Virgil supposedly left for a while because he was depressed about Bernie losing, and we probably didn't think he would be that vulnerable either.

    It seems like people think that the justification for complaining about Will is that he was nice to Matt Taibbi on the bad blue lives matter episode. The chapos are all nice to guests as a rule. They've tried fighting with guests before (tradcath guy, David Cross) and it was awful, and they didn't like getting gotcha'd on that show that they went on, and they've all been very good to guests since then. We know Will doesn't actually like the police, and he's said all the right BLM stuff about the police before and after that show. He is just a good host, and he got enough out of Matt Taibbi that Matt Taibbi can be cancelled, if that's what you want.

    I feel like I'm defending a member of a boy band here and it's cringe.

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      when will is gone, the other hosts get really weird and ranty. The intitial rant about felix's wife -> learning to drive stick ->felix's wife who has a stick car -> bitchin camaro felt like it was made specifically for me. Just absolute chaos.

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    JFC I don't think we needed that 30 minute exegesis of Amber's feelings towards a random Baltimore woman.

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    Wait how long is Amber going to talk about this lady there's still twenty minutes left

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    I'm glad that Amber brought up Tariq's weird hotep shit and his grudge against interracial relationships (even if it's tangential), though it does make me wonder if they've ever talked about any of that with T from Champagne Sharks.

    • TheUrbanaSquirrel [she/her]
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      Yeah, it's strange that she doesn't know about hoteps. I'm a white midwesterner and even I know about hoteps. They need T to visit the show more often.

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        Well my point about T is that he spouts that shit all the time. Stopped following him on Twitter because he was retweeting Tariq.

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            Yeah it was a weird tangent off a weird tangent. Talking about the speakers gets derailed to talk about this one political figure from Baltimore which gets derailed to talk about Tariq for 20 minutes. Some people shit on Will and I seriously dont get it considering he keeps the conversation focused.

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              After thinking about it a bit more, your comment put a few things into perspective for me about some of T's comments on Champagne Sharks. I've never heard him speak directly about Tariq but he's made some comments about feminists that seemed a bit... off. It's so hard to get a grip on what the hell is happening right now. I feel like I need three layers deep of "explainers" for everything.

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                Parsing stuff like this can be such a headache. Racism is often jacketed in concerns about violence against women, but at the same time misogyny is often jacketed in concerns about white feminism. It's difficult to gauge disingenuousness because even the person making the critique doesn't know when they have an unconscious bias. The Chapos do this sort of thing ALL the time, where they'll make a snide comment about toxic masculinity or BLM protests that is difficult to tell how much of it is being annoyed with liberal cooption or being reflexively opposed to social justice movements. I try to give the benefit of the doubt as much as I can, and I don't wanna commit libel and say that T has called black women bed wenches/removed or anything like that because I don't remember, but T can get waaaaay too concerned with how many black women thirst over someone like Chris Evans and go through Tweets looking for anything that can be pathologized as raceplay, and generally the exact same creepish behavior that Amber was talking about.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      I've said this before but; I like Will, still Will-less episodes have a chaotic energy and they rule.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      Virgil does. I assume Sam Seder tells him about it before tucking him in and giving him a kiss on the forehead.

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    LMAO one of the posters on r/blackwolffeed pointed out there's a nice little sniff at 24:55 that sure sounds like someone's doing a small bump.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      Can't wait for her takes on the Cocaine use at the RNC

    • AngusMcAnus [he/him]
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      pretty sure that same someone is not gonna spend a few 30 minutes rambling about some dumbass conservative black woman later in the ep

    • slevin [none/use name]
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      It's fine, entertainment-wise, more often than not. I also fell off after Bernie lost but started listening again recently. I'm not going back to the episodes I missed.

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        A great episode from a month or so back was "Nestors of Anarchy", classic Will/Matt/Felix banter about Matt Gaetz, Ron Perlman, and the tv show Sons of Anarchy, it was really funny

        link: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackWolfFeed/comments/hbqpif/429_nestors_of_anarchy_61820/

        • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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          Sounds like fun! Their takes on current events dont seem to hold up well after a month or two but I like when they riff on tv shows

          • EugeneDebs [he/him]
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            yeah, and they had a great tie-in between both the Nestor bit and Sons of Anarchy:

            All of a sudden this guy is his "son" after being previously referred to as a "local student" and page, and then a "helper"? Look! He was a prospect then! Just this week he got the full patch of SON!

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      Very hit or miss, honestly.

      They're all dealing with the Bernie failure weirdly.

      Felix is gaming, Will is trying to keep it together, Matt has embraced the void, Virgil left for 4 months, Amber is doing coke about it.

      So, this episode is godawful, last week's Black Wolf was actually good, etc.

    • grillpilled [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      People seem to think that the normal episodes (not this will-less episode, not the Alan Dershowitz movie episode) from the past few weeks were some of the best ever.

    • h00rayforstuff [he/him]
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      Yeah I think so. My podcast consumption has fallen off a cliff since march, but it's one of maybe 3 or 4 shows I listen to regularly.